A SUCCESSFUL COUP AGAINST TRUMP WILL MURDER AMERICAN DEMOCRACY

November 13, 2019 – 8:52 am

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Why impeach a president? Can’t Americans wait 11 months and vote him out of office in November 2020? By Paul Craig Roberts.

President Trump calls it a witch hunt, but it really is a coup against American democracy. The Democrats who want Trump impeached don’t realize this. They just want Trump impeached because they don’t like him. The impeach Trump people don’t understand that if the coup against the elected president succeeds, every future president will know that if he attempts to “drain the swamp” or bring any changes not acceptable to the ruling elite, he, too, will be destroyed.

Voters who want real change will also get the message and give up trying to elect a president or members of the House and Senate who will be responsive to voters. It will mean the end of democracy and accountable government. Unhindered rule by the Deep State and associated elites will take democracy’s place.

It is unfortunate that progressives do not understand this. Progressives want real change and Trump impeached, but these desires are at variance with one another.

Few, if any, of the impeach Trump crowd are paying any attention to the fabricated case against Trump that has taken the place of the Russiagate fabrication that failed. They could not care less what the case is or whether it is a fabrication. Dislike of Trump suffices.

The impeach Trump people don’t understand that if the coup against the elected president succeeds, every future president will know that if he attempts to “drain the swamp” or bring any changes not acceptable to the ruling elite, he, too, will be destroyed.

Nevertheless, let’s look at the fabricated case.

First of all, the alleged whistleblower is not a legitimate whistleblower. He is Eric Ciaramella, a CIA officer with a second-hand complaint who met with House Intelligence (sic) chairman Adam Schiff a month ahead to orchestrate the event. Ciaramella served on Obama’s staff when VP Joe Biden was point man for Ukraine. Ciaramella also worked with CIA Director John Brennan, the architect of “Russiagate,” and with a Democratic National Committee operative who encouraged Ukraine officials to come up with dirt on President Trump.

All of this and more has caused the “whistleblower” to withdraw from testifying.

Desperate for a substitute, Democrats have come up with tainted career bureaucrats who favor military aid to Ukraine and a hard line toward Russia. Bill Taylor a US diplomat in Ukraine claims that Trump’s ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, said that US military aid to Ukraine was conditional on Ukraine reopening the government’s investigation into the Ukrainian company, Burisma, an investigation that VP Joe Biden had closed down. Burisma is the company that paid as much as US$1.75 million to Biden and his son.

First of all, the alleged whistleblower is not a legitimate whistleblower. He is Eric Ciaramella, a CIA officer with a second-hand complaint who met with House Intelligence (sic) chairman Adam Schiff a month ahead to orchestrate the event. Ciaramella served on Obama’s staff when VP Joe Biden was point man for Ukraine. Ciaramella also worked with CIA Director John Brennan, the architect of “Russiagate,” and with a Democratic National Committee operative who encouraged Ukraine officials to come up with dirt on President Trump.

Taylor claims that another bureaucrat, Tim Morrison, told him that Sondland communicated the “quid pro quo” to an aide to Zelensky. Sondland rejects the claims by Taylor and Morrison.

A Ukrainian born rabid anti-Russian US Army officer serving on the National Security Council, Alexander Vindman, also offers two cents of unverified quid pro quo claims. Vindman’s motive seems to be that President Trump is inclined to follow a different policy toward Ukraine than Vindman prefers.

This is the extent of the case against Trump. Amazingly weak considering that Ukrainian president Zelensky has stated publicly that there was no quid pro quo and that the released transcript of the Trump-Zelensky conversation shows no quid pro quo.

Now for the issue of the alleged quid pro quo. It seems that everyone on both sides of the argument takes for granted without a second of thought that if there was a quid pro quo, there was an offense, possibly one sufficiently offensive to warrant impeachment. This is utter ignorant nonsense.

Quid pro quos are endemic in US foreign policy and always have been. The US government offered Ecuador president Lenin Moreno a $4.2 billion IMF loan in exchange for revoking Julian Assange’s asylum. Moreno took the deal.

Washington offered the Venezuelan military money to overthrow President Maduro. The military refused the offer.

What do you think the sanctions are that the US president places on countries? They are punishments that Washington imposes for not accepting Washington’s deal.

Dozens of examples come readily to mind. Research would produce enough to fill a book.

What do you think the sanctions are that the US president places on countries? They are punishments that Washington imposes for not accepting Washington’s deal.

As for a quid pro quo deal between the US executive branch and president of Ukraine, we have VP Joe Biden’s boast that he got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating corruption in the firm that had purchased US protection by putting Biden’s son, Hunter, on Burisma’s board. Joe Biden brags in front of the Council on Foreign Relations that he gave the Ukrainian president six hours to fire the prosecutor or forfeit $1 billion in US aid.

As Biden was US Vice President at the time and is currently the leading Democratic candidate for the US presidential nomination, he is clearly guilty of what Trump is accused. Why is only Trump subject to investigation? If an offense that is merely suspected or alleged suffices for impeaching a president, why isn’t a known and admitted and bragged about offense reason to disqualify Biden from being president?

One would think that a question this obvious would be the topic of debate. But not a word from the presstitutes, Democrats, or Republicans.

Finally, there is the question of the whistleblower law. If this interpretation sent to me by a reliable source is correct, there is no basis in law for the alleged whistleblower complaint.

Note: Dr Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts’ latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West, How America Was Lost, and The Neoconservative Threat to World Order. Click here to donate to and support Dr Roberts’ work. The above article was posted at Information Clearing House.

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  1. 23 Responses to “A SUCCESSFUL COUP AGAINST TRUMP WILL MURDER AMERICAN DEMOCRACY”

  2. Oh gosh, Doc, sure seems quite simple.
    Why is this the thing they think is going to bring Trump down when obvious facts speak so clearly to any objective ears. Facts can’t reach an unobjective mind, I guess. But almost all house democrats voted in favor, sans 3 or so show impervious to facts will do ANYTHING to attain, regain, and strip away all and any power at any and all costs. They don’t care about the citizens of THIS country. But these politicians cannot see how their limited vision is and failure to attend to important matters of the day is backfire so big, they’re going to wonder what the eff happened come next November. C’mon HRC spend your ill gotten money you and your pig family have accumulated since your stay at the Whore House, your first campaign of rape and pillage in Washington D.C., burn in hell you witch. This time Trump will surely “lock her up”. And drag that rapist and cocaine dealer husband (yeah I’m talking bout you) William Jefferson Clinton a.k.a. Slick Willie.

    By otis t on Nov 13, 2019

  3. Oh, I forgot, Jeffery Epstein didn’t kill himself.

    By otis t on Nov 14, 2019

  4. Ha. Ha. Trump 2020. Dummbass Demococrats.

    By Chowdergun on Nov 14, 2019

  5. Nothing but a bunch of crybabies still upset over the un-eduacated white man vote that turned the election over to our Great President. They still can’t and won’t ever admit to the real reason he won. So they fabricate lies to cover there weaknesses. I will vote again for President Trump in 2020.

    By Big E on Nov 14, 2019

  6. Anybody believing that Trump is against the so-called elite is really blatantly naive. And what exactly has he done to ‘drain the swamp’? But if you want to continue the war against women, blacks, gays and lesbians. Mexicans etc. and waste money on useless walls go ahead. We are many who will like to see the US empire crumble ;-)

    By Bodhi on Nov 15, 2019

  7. Bodhi, “We are many who will like to see the US empire crumble”
    We don’t take kindly to the like ’round here. If you’re not from the states, what’s Trump mean to you? Buzz off! Every man likes to “grab ‘em by the pussy” like all those women lllloooovvveeedd being grabbed by the hands of some loser millionaire. That’s just the way life is. Not condoning this kind of behavior, but c’mon this guy is doing the United States, if not the entire world a great service. You should be thankful no matter where you’re from. God Bless You.

    By otis t on Nov 15, 2019

  8. Michelle Obama runs from blacks and hispanics, buys house at Marthas Vineyard. Oh well.

    By otis t on Nov 15, 2019

  9. This “article” is straight up fact free garbage. The impeachment hearings are called for in the Constitution, written hundreds of years before the lying, draft dodging, serial wife cheating criminal ran for President. It is precisely Democracy in action. The 45th president lost the popular vote by Millions, and has factually, provably lied over 13,000 times in his term, so far. Compare his criminal acts, putting his own greedy welfare over the country at large and then compare that to what they sent Bill Clinton up for. The Orange Buffoon belongs in jail, not merely impeached. Fortunately, the state of NY has such plans for him when this is over.

    By Reddy Kilowatt on Nov 15, 2019

  10. He is probably the most honest person we’ve had running this country in a while. I’m not saying the guy is perfect in any way, with the exception of his negotiation style. Ha ha! After THE MOST CORRUPT (OBAMA) administration in history this guy is like a kid batting around some beehive. The establishment can’t handle Mr. Trump. Very simple to objective thinking.

    By otis t on Nov 15, 2019

  11. Go away Reddy, you are part of the problem. They have nothing on them but there own lies.

    By Big E on Nov 16, 2019

  12. Are you kidding? Trump has destroyed what it means to be an American. He needs to be spot corrected for absolutely demonstrating how not to govern. He is surrounded by coprophagic lying swine, and is a totally corrupt piece of shit.

    By Sass on Nov 16, 2019

  13. Gee Sass, you’re right! How can I possibly argue with that! “Orange man bad! Orange man bad!…oh I feel so warm.

    By otis t on Nov 17, 2019

  14. Big O, please tell me that you don’t actually believe what this idiot has written. If so, I’ve lost a lot of respect for you. It’s bad enough you let racists continually stain the comments sections, but if you are a Trump supporter, you are a flawed person at best.

    By mackdaddyg on Nov 17, 2019

  15. Hey- do any of you “freaks” know if that Nancy Pelosi is a crackhead or what? Did she take too much acid back in the day? Her brain is wacked. She looks nervous as fuck! This is how people act when they are lying, whether it’s a little 5 year-old or an establishment politician who’s overstayed their welcome. Get that other crackhead Maxine Waters the fuck out too!

    By otis t on Nov 18, 2019

  16. Otis, are you auditioning for Alex Jones’ job when his conspiracy theories finally bankrupt him ? Everybody wants to know if you.re really the drunk on the Andy Griffith Show and if you have stopped
    beating your wife. You, your idol and Mike Pentz have surreptitiously edited the Ten Commandments.Deprnding on how you number them, it’s
    the one about bearing false witness.

    By Morty Van Helsing on Nov 18, 2019

  17. The Ten Commandments huh? What’d you do go to Sunday school er sumthin’. Of freaking course I beat my wife, I identify as a Mooslim. And can have no alcohol.
    Isn’t Alex Jones the guy Hilary got to take her out of the 2016 (HRC to lose) election? From out of nowhere she starts talking about this guys (AJ) nefarious activity. Diversion tatic!

    By otis t on Nov 18, 2019

  18. I like you folks a lot. You’ve always been kind wih requests and stuff… but Betty Fucknut is in idiot. The posted article is insipid Projection and Word salad buffoonery for idiot Libertarian/Objectivist asshats.

    The Democracy already died when the Republicans stopped Obama from Appointing a SCJ… and Moscow Mitch refusing to let Obama appoint Judges and then stacking the Courts with Religious zealots and Judges who are NOT into Democray.

    By leesa on Nov 21, 2019

  19. “They just want Trump impeached because they don’t like him” - no, not quite. They want him impeached because he’s a lying traitorous danger to the United States. His hijacking of the processes of government for his own financial enrichment and his negation of any codes of morality and ethics are an abhorrence to your country and the world. If USA doesn’t rid itself of this dangerous fool, then we in the rest of the world will think less than ever of American democratic practices.

    By Gareth on Nov 22, 2019

  20. Have no fear Liberal assholes of which here there are many . I’m pretty certain a Towel Head Omar / Ocassio Cortez or vice versa ticket is in the works for 2024 . Then all you ape / Jew loving liberals can rejoice.

    By HHH on Nov 23, 2019

  21. Not sure a about the Jews though . If Towel Head ( Manchurian Candidate) gets elected , Her Isis superiors will no doubt order Shariah law and round up the Jews for public beheadings. I’m sure they are already gleefully sharpening up those hunting knives they like to use .

    By HHH on Nov 23, 2019

  22. Nancy Pelosi is a Liberal/ socialist/ communist pig Trump is a great American . The impeachment hearings are a disgrace as was the confirmation hearings for Justice Brett Kavanaugh .

    By HHH on Nov 23, 2019

  23. Does anyone know what happened to David Duke ? Didn’t he hold some kind of office for awhile?

    By Geoff on Nov 23, 2019

  24. Hey Geoff, Hilter was very impressed wlth the Democrats KKK. They inspired the NAZIS how to oppress a segment of the population by passing unjust laws to penalize and take personal property from law abiding citizens.
    Trump on the other hand tries to pass laws to protect citizens of this country,throttling immigration. He a little loose with his mouth, that’s about all, using hyperbolic language that the media magnify to silly proportions. Trump keeps playing them like a violin. He’s a very funny and smart man, if nothing else. Something the left has no time for.

    By otis t on Nov 24, 2019

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