April 17, 2014 – 5:30 am
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Love Devotion Surrender Sessions [no label, 2CD]
Unknown studio (supposedly in California); 1973. Good to very good soundboard.
Thanks to jswetch for sharing the tracks at Dime.
I purchased this many years ago in a record store (remember them?) in New York’s East Village. It purports to be outtakes from the sessions that produced the Love Devotion Surrender (LDS) album, and indeed there are different versions and works in progress from that project here. The version of A Love Supreme on this was virtually identical to the one on the official release, so I didn’t include that for the sake of not having this banned. What you’ll hear doesn’t sound pristine, but it is pretty good quality, give the time period that this emerged from. My guess is that this was dubbed a couple of times from the original studio tapes… Remarkable to think that there was a time about 40 years ago when a project like this would have been awarded a Gold Record for sales, which the original Love Devotion Surrender did actually receive.
As to the idea that some of these tracks are identical to the LDS disc/album [see below], I did definitely detect that with A Love Supreme, and that’s why it’s not included in this torrent. As for the others, I did A/B listens to the torrent material and LDS (and Welcome for Mantra). Definitely similar takes in some cases, but the timing of the tracks were all different enough, that I felt they were not the same tracks. A couple of them were nearly a minute or 2 in length different from each other. A difference like that wouldn’t just be the result of a fast or slow turntable or tape deck. In any case, we can only guess.
More notes from shakti fan (provided by propylaen at Dime):
A. LDS was recorded over two sessions, I believe. My memory on this is a little foggy, but the first sessions were in 1972. Then there were more session in April(?) ‘73 where they recorded Flame-Sky and Mantra. The former was, of course, featured on Welcome (which was released November 1973, not 1974), and the latter not released until 2003 as a bonus track on the excellent CD reissue. I am unsure whether any tracks from the later session were actually featured on LDS… Let Us Go Into the House of the Lord, perhaps?? Anyway, it seems that at least the later session was something in between a regular Santana session and a McLaughlin/Santana session. They’re working on Flor de Canela and Samba de Sausalito here, which would suggest it was actually a Santana session (in fact, it seems that many tracks here don’t really feature McLaughlin).
B. I’ve had more time to listen to this stuff now, and I wanted to make some further comments on the tracks and the sessions. I think it’s fair to categorize much of this stuff more as “Santana” outtakes rather than “Mahavishnu JM & Carlos Santana” outtakes. Some of these observations will be guesswork, but nonetheless…feel free to add further comments:
01 Instrumental: This one puzzles me… the way they play sounds much more like the live recordings of the ‘73 tour than any of the stuff on the studio record. The drummer sounds like Cobham, the organ player like Larry Young, the bass player like Doug Rauch. I guess it *could* be from the October ‘72 that produced the bulk of the original LDS album (or so I believe), but this sounds almost like a tour rehearsal to me. Something about the way JM shreds on this one makes me think of the later live recordings. However, about halfway through another organ enters, and it sounds very much like a Yamaha or similar electric organ, like Tom Coster (or was it Richard Kermode) used to play a lot with Santana. Can anyone identify the tune they’re jamming on here? Comparing to the live recordings it reminds me the most of Taurian Matador.
02 A Love Supreme: Pardon me, but isn’t this just the album take, lifted from a vinyl source? I have a hunch it might be from the quad release, but it’s the same basic take and edit.
03 Naima: Ditto
04/05 The Life Divine: Up until JM’s solo, starting at 4:28, these two are identical to the released version on the standard stereo version of LDS. From there on out, they differ… JM’s solo is in full-on shred mode. Not that he was restrained on the stereo version (one of my favourite JM solos!) but here he just rips… unfortunately I don’t think it’s anywhere near as successful as the standard version, which has impeccable execution and construction. This one is much more rambling. However, I am almost 100 per cent sure that this is the take released on the Quadrophonic version of the album, which infamously had an alternate JM solo on this track. At 22 seconds into the first of these versions, there’s a slight skip/bump… almost like something putting down the dust cover on a record player while doing a needle drop. Further “evidence” that this is a needle drop from the quad version. The fade-out is also much longer on this one. The two versions here are identical, though, except the first (track 4) sounds better except for the slight bump mentioned.
06 Let Us Go Into the House of the Lord: Again, as far as I can tell, exactly the same as the released version. Sounds like a needle drop again. Fades out abruptly though.
01 Mantra: This definitely sounds like it’s from the sessions for the track Mantra, which was eventually released as a bonus track on the 2003 reissue of Welcome. The finished track doesn’t feature any guitar IIRC, but does have both JM and Carlos chanting. The stuff featured here sounds like a loose jam/soundcheck, but there’s so much fantastic stuff being thrown around here that it’s a feast to listen to. McLaughlin plays some lines that harken back to stuff he played with Lifetime, and some lines that point to later Mahavishnu stuff (unison lines of Eternity’s Breath pt 1). Carlos plays some chords from The Light of Life. Then there are also hints to Flame-Sky. Can anyone hear what the engineer is saying right at the end…”****** take 2″??
02 Flame-Sky: Probably from the same session as above. The Welcome reissue has Flame-Sky as recorded in May ‘73 and Mantra in April. Given that those two are the only tracks from the Welcome sessions to feature JM, I would venture as far as saying they were *probably* both recorded in either April or May. Anyway, this doesn’t sound like a “JM/Carlos” session as such - it’s clearly the Santana band featuring JM as a guest. But hey, Welcome is one of my top 10 (actually, make that top *5*) albums of all time, so I’m not complaining!! Great, great stuff here.
03 Title unknown: This is an interesting little thing. Sounds like JM playing those vina-like runs and Carlos backing him on acoustic. My guess is that this has nothing to do with the official/CBS LDS recordings. Rather, it is a home(?) recording of JM and Carlos running through some devotional songs that they did together at Sri Chinmoy events. But who is that singing?
04 Title unknown: Eeeeerrrr… this could be just about anyone messing around on a pump organ. My guess though, based on the voice: Carlos trying out some new devotional song. Again, my guess is it’s a home recording.
05 Acoustic jam #1: I thought a jam session would involve at least two musicians? This is probably just Carlos messing around with some new chord progressions. I don’t recognize anything in particular except a lick or two that remind me of Practice What You Preach from Borboletta.
06 Acoustic jam #2: Again just Carlos, and I don’t recognize anything here, except a progression that sounds like it was lifted from some Beatles song…
07 Acoustic jam #3: As I mentioned before, this is Carlos running through an embryonic version of Light of Life, and then into the same chords as acoustic jam #1. I think I read somewhere that he sang Light of Life alone with an acoustic aat some Sri Chinmoy events.
08-11 Samba de Sausalito: Wonderful stuff! Again, this is from the Welcome sessions, and does not feature JM. There’s lots of interesting stuff here; the band working out parts in the studio, Tom Coster(?) teaching Carlos the right notes to the transition into Samba de Sausalito “proper”… as we can hear, they obviously devised it with the cool intro which they played live in ‘73 (heard on Lotus). This was cut out on Welcome (therefore the abrupt start of that track) and then later reappeared as Flor de Canela on Borboletta.
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Track 101. The Live Divine Jam 13:59 (23.5MB)
102. A Love Supreme - omitted (official release?)
Track 103. Naima Jam 3:11 (5.3MB)
Track 104. Live Divine Take #1 10:34 (17.8MB)
Track 105. Live Divine Take #2 10:24 (17.5MB)
Track 106. Let’s Go Into The House Of The Lord 13:40 (23.0MB)
Track 201. Mantra 8:51 (14.9MB)
Track 202. Flame-Sky 11:41 (19.6MB)
Track 203. Untitled Song #1 1:32 (2.6MB)
Track 204. Untitled Song #2 1:58 (3.3MB)
Track 205. Acoustic Jam #1 4:21 (7.3MB)
Track 206. Acoustic Jam #2 3:37 (6.1MB)
Track 207. Acoustic Jam #3 5:10 (8.7MB)
Track 208. Samba De Sausalito #1 5:18 (8.9MB)
Track 209. Samba De Sausalito #2 3:23 (5.7MB)
Track 210. Samba De Sausalito #3 5:46 (9.7MB)
Track 211. Samba De Sausaltio #4 5:51 (9.8MB)
John Mclaughlin - guitars
Carlos Santana - guitars
Doug Rauch - bass
Larry Young - organ
Armando Peraza - congas
Billy Cobham - drums
Jan Hammer - drums
Mike Shrieve - drums
Don Alias - drums
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