October 25, 2014 – 8:55 am

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Secret Rarities - Rev A [This Place Records TPR 010, 1CD]

Demos and outtakes 1983-1993. Excellent soundboard.

Thanks to original uploader MOB; and to Dr Forrester and Beolab1700 for keeping the show alive on the net.

MOB’s notes:

This is a revised version from the one I shared previously (in 2008 on JAC and in May 2013 on Yeeshkul!). Tracks are either upgrades compared to previous versions, or new tracks (tracks 2, 11, 13, 14 and 15).

Tracks 1, 3, 5 and 6 come from a tape that David Gilmour brought to BBC Radio One studios on July 28, 1992, for his interview by Nick Horne (promoting the “Shine On” box set). They are from a pre-FM source and sound slightly better than the versions on the previous release, but are still mono. For that reason, the current compilation also includes the versions of “Like A Rolling Stone” (track 2) and “Learning To Fly” (track 4) taken from the stereo FM broadcast (”The Dogs Of War” and “Signs Of Life” were on the tape but were not broadcast during the BBC show).

The most significant upgrades are the four untitled demos from 1993 (tracks 7 to 10), for which I received unprocessed versions some months ago. The versions circulating until now had severe NR and were very muffled. The new versions offered here have some hiss, but sound natural and clear. The 1st demo was apparently assembled from two jams, and the first part was probably accelerated in order to have the same pitch as the second part. This demo was later developed and properly recorded by the band (the resulting studio outtake can be heard on track 11). The 4th demo is also an assemblage, from four separate jams (the third one containing the ascending chord sequence that appeared later on “What Do You Want From Me”).

The outtake of “Wearing The Inside Out” (track 12) is from the same source as previously (”Bear In Tree” RoIO), with muffled sound as if the tape was played back with Dolby ON while the recording was not using Dolby. It was carefully remastered in order to bring some clarity and now sounds slightly better than the previous version.

The last three tracks are completely new, and form together an 11-minute instrumental suite. These outtakes probably come from an early version of “The Division Bell” album, and reveal that the first intention of the Floyd was to make a long instrumental piece where “Cluster One” segues into “Marooned”, and then into a third part with percussion.

This third part was abandoned for the final version of the album, but its harmonies were re-used in the bridge of “High Hopes”. Please note that this instrumental suite was given to me with plenty of digi-noises, crackles and clicks, and was almost unlistenable in its rough form. I used de-clicking and de-crackling methods in order to make it listenable - and even enjoyable - but you can still hear some kind of “surface” noise or saturation during the loud parts. There is still hope to get a better (cleaner) version in the future. In the meantime, this is the best as it could sound.

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Click on the highlighted tracks to download the MP3s (224 kbps). As far as we can ascertain, these tracks have never been officially released on CD.

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Track 01. Like A Rolling Stone (David Gilmour demo 1983) 1:48 (3.0MB)
Track 02. Like A Rolling Stone (David Gilmour demo 1983 - FM source) 1:46 (3.0MB)
Track 03. Learning To Fly (Jon Carin demo 1986) 2:19 (3.9MB)
Track 04. Learning To Fly (Jon Carin demo 1986 - FM source) 1:27 (2.5MB)
Track 05. The Dogs Of War (demo 1986) 1:16 (2.1MB)
Track 06. Signs Of Life (outtake 1986) 3:50 (6.4MB)
Track 07. Untitled #1 (demo 1993) 1:49 (3.1MB)
Track 08. Untitled #2 (demo 1993) 2:32 (4.3MB)
Track 09. Untitled #3 (demo 1993) 2:32 (4.3MB)
Track 10. Untitled #4 (demo 1993, including What Do You Want From Me) 3:39 (6.9MB)
Track 11. Untitled #1 (outtake 1993) 5:59 (10.1MB)
Track 12. Wearing The Inside Out (outtake 1993) 2:39 (4.5MB)
The Instrumental Suite (outtake 1993):
Track 13. Cluster One (outtake 1993) 4:17 (7.2MB)
Track 14. Marooned (outtake 1993) 3:35 (6.0MB)
15. Untitled (including High Hopes) - Omitted
40 mins

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  1. 34 Responses to “PINK FLOYD - SECRET RARITIES”

  2. Great post Big-O. Thank you.

    By California Jim on Oct 25, 2014

  3. Superb stuff, Thanks Big-O

    By Bob on Oct 25, 2014

  4. Looking forward to listening to these tracks..

    By Tom on Oct 25, 2014

  5. All 15 tracks - and at 320 too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By ZinhoFan on Oct 25, 2014

  6. Wow - cool big o! This is the perfect warm-up to the ENDLESS RIVER release. Thanks again!

    By Daniel Kershner on Oct 25, 2014

  7. that zippyshare link doesn’t work I’ve tried twice won 2 diff browsers all I get is a incomplete file

    By Stlouielou on Oct 26, 2014

  8. it works perfectly. the entire thing dl’d in less than 5mins. i was going to post a message asking if anyone needs help unzipping a 7z file and offering help but i figured id wait til someone asks.

    By darth on Oct 26, 2014

  9. i also meant to thank u zin. i wanted that 15th file.
    ultimately it opens to 18 files including 2 images and a text file altho i always add my own text file of the info from bigo’s page such as all the text from above the discovery box set up to the covers way up top. i do that with all bigo items that i dl just for reference purposes.

    By darth on Oct 26, 2014

  10. didn’t work for me

    By Stlouielou on Oct 26, 2014

  11. Thank You BigO! Great post! But one sad news - Jack Bruce passed away :-( R.I.P.

    By Josef (Czech republic) on Oct 26, 2014

  12. Damn…Jack Bruce gone now…my condolences to family, fans, etc…these guys are all we’ve got left of anything that resembles music…another dark cloud over my head for awhile…

    By Daniel Kershner on Oct 26, 2014

  13. well stlouielou.. youre only missing the final section with high hopes anyway. its 3mins6secs. if that helps.

    By darth on Oct 26, 2014


    By darth on Oct 28, 2014

  15. Amazing collection!
    Thank you!

    By rochacrimson on Oct 31, 2014

  16. floyd is for kids.

    By Jaw Hunger on Oct 31, 2014


    By darth on Nov 3, 2014

  18. darth always with the news thanks.

    By dungereez on Nov 3, 2014

  19. yw. its not always good news sadly.
    weird thing is that i thought roxy finally broke up in 2001 and reunited in 05 for live8. i had no idea they considered themselves a band all this time and were only now announcing their break up. isnt that a kick in the head? i also thought they broke up in 83 for a number of years and reunited several times perhaps over that nearly 20 yr period before 2001. i saw the radio city music hall show in may 83. one of my fave shows they ever did. i got the 3d album cover thing they had on display in the glass outside the venue promoting the album / show afterwards but it was raining and i brought it to a friends home a couple of blocks away who i asked to hold it for me. she is the woman who took me to see the who at shea stadium in fact. i introduced her to the members of the who so she could get autographs of theirs. she ultimately stole the roxy item i asked her to hold for me sadly. i wish i still had that tho. but if not for her i wouldnt have seen that who shea show. who knows tho.. by now that roxy item prob would have been destroyed. it was a one or two of a kind. i think there was one on the other side of radio city too. i dont remember. the one i got faced sam goodys. if there was another it would have faced nbc studios. i dont really think there was another tho. i think it was a 1 of a kind.
    hey better that theyre breaking up and we have more product coming out and theyre still alive and its not news of any of their deaths. right? at least its possible that they can reunite for a benefit of sorts like they did for live8.

    By darth on Nov 3, 2014

  20. you met the who and introduced them to your friend? then she steals from you ? wow.

    By dungereez on Nov 4, 2014

  21. no it gets better…

    she takes him to see the who at Shea but he takes her to meet the boys…

    good lord…

    does it ever end with you glenny boy….?

    By Jerry's Finger on Nov 4, 2014

  22. Hey, leave my pal Darthy alone!!

    It’s not fair to mock somebody whom we all admire. Darth, myself, and all the world’s great gutarists, used to hang out together in “Darth’s Imagination”, an exclusive night-spot in his bedroom, under the sheets with the flashlight on.

    I wrote “Lie-la” just for Darth, it was a code-name we used to use, because he was married to George Harrison at the time, so we needed to be discreet. After he divorced George and married me, we were happy for a while. Especially as he used to take such great photographs. There’s one of me in the back yard with two cats. I said it should have been two parrots, then we could have called it “Eric Clapton with the yard birds” but Darth just didn’t get the joke, because there was no Wikipedia back then.

    By Eric Calpton on Nov 4, 2014

  23. i gotta get some chips and beer sit back and reread these travels with darth.

    By dungereez on Nov 4, 2014

  24. holy moley he knows everyone !

    By dungereez on Nov 4, 2014

  25. just wait until he releases that 10 million word opus of his….everything will come out & be revealed…!!!

    By Jerry's Finger on Nov 4, 2014

  26. they had been in town for a few days before the shea show and i brought her to the hotel during the week prior so she could meet them and get autographs. in turn she brought me to the show. that was late 82. the following may 83.. roxy played radio city. it was raining that day so when i asked the staff at the venue for the promotional item inside the glass i didnt want it to get damaged. i left it at her place which was down the block and around the corner from radio city. i raced it there as fast as i could and figured i would pick it up and get it home a week or two later when it wasnt raining. perhaps in a cab or something. maybe a subway. i didnt know she wouldnt be a person to trust at that point.
    yes i know the members of the who. i have known them since 1980 when i started taking pics. altho i had seen them several times before that and they recognized me prior to that. they didnt know my name til 82. from 80-95 however i got to know them pretty well.

    By darth on Nov 5, 2014

  27. ^hehehehehehehehehehehe….!!!!

    By Jerry's Finger on Nov 5, 2014


    By dropkick sarge on Nov 5, 2014

  29. i didnt say anyone calls me. plus i dont live in nyc anymore and im not involved in what i did anymore. its been nearly 20 years now. ive said this repeatedly. i am not in communication with most of the musicians and actors that i knew from 1980-95 or so anymore. a few yes but not most.
    i was on a first name basis when i saw them in ny phila sf la etc.
    if u need headache powder im not surprised. if i had a head like yours and it didnt hurt.. id know something was wrong.

    By darth on Nov 6, 2014

  30. this one glen ranks up there with your other great tale you told recently if I recall graham Nash & you are great friends know each other very well but you haven’t talked to him in about 20 years….!!!

    fantastic stuff glenny…god that imagination of yours is tremendous…I can’t wait until you publish your 10 million page opus…

    tell us more about your rock n roll life….I’m a waiting just enthralled…!!!

    By Jerry's Finger on Nov 6, 2014

  31. yes i was good friends with graham. but no i havent talked to him since 95. i dropped out and left the scene.

    By darth on Nov 6, 2014

  32. Darth you still friends with the Chambers Brothers?

    By dropkick sarge on Nov 6, 2014

  33. i havent talked to les since the day online via email. i was never friends with them but i do have a pic of me between them from lincoln center back behind the stage when they did a small nyc blues fest with bill monroe and john lee hooker around 89 or 90 i dont recall the exact year. they were wonderful to talk to and spend time with. the place was packed. it was the last time monroe performed in ny and if not his final performance one of the last ever shows he ever did. jlhooker didnt do more than another few shows after that and never played nyc again.
    that series of performances at the beacon theater with him and bb king and tinsley ellis and buddy guy and omg.. a killer blues festival that year.. was probaby the greatest nyc blues festival i ever witnessed in my day. it was a 2 day event but the lincoln center one was a different one altogether. thats the one with the chambers bros and monroe and jlhooker.
    but no i was never friends with them. just met them that one time. took pics of them and one or two with them. why do u ask?

    By darth on Nov 6, 2014

  34. I love Pink Floyd and some of these tracks are GREAT. However,

    The reggae “Like a Rolling Stone” made me cringe, and “Dogs of War” is one of the worst songs Pink Floyd ever released.

    I am looking forward to “Endless River.” And I am a little sad that Roger Waters, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, and Richard Wright couldn’t make music together in the 80s and 90s. They were better together.

    By Eric on Nov 9, 2014

  35. personally i dont like anything floyd did after final cut. i put up with their live performances because of the musicians involved and the material they did along with the crap post 83. i am not happy that ricks recordings were wiped from final cut. he usually refused to sign copies of that album ya know. i read that a batch of 13 hired hands helped to write the material for the subsequent albums. some may not agree but i think it says something when the line up for momentary and division bell released live albums and videos for both tours in an effort to bring in more money. where as there were essentially no live albums prior to final cut way back to piper. i dont count ummagumma either.
    so from 67 to 83 none. but 87-88 and 94 we get 2. hmmm.
    but then finally we get the wall live 30 yrs after it happened. and then in box set form we get some dark side live 40 years after it happened.
    sure there are a couple of catchy tunes written to get us to sing along on those 2 studio albums but there are no real floyd fans who think even the best song on either mlor or db is even close to anything prior to fc.

    By darth on Nov 9, 2014

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