THE GRATEFUL DEAD WITH STEVE WINWOOD - FILLMORE EAST 1970

August 8, 2020 – 5:21 am

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THE GRATEFUL DEAD
With Steve Winwood
Fillmore East 1970 [no label, 2CD]

Live at the Fillmore East, NYC; November 16, 1970. Fairly to very good soundboard. Incomplete show.

Thanks to the original uploader at Lossless Legs; and to Doinker for sharing the show at Dime.

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This is the concert formerly thought to have taken place on 11/23/70 at the Anderson Theater in New York City. This show has been shrouded in mystery and confusion over the last 30 years ever since it first entered circulation in 1973. However, fresh research has unveiled what is most likely the true story behind this classic Grateful Dead show.

On 11/14/70 at Frank Zappa’s Fillmore East Late Show, Grace Slick came out on stage, on behalf of Bill Graham, to announce an unscheduled concert featuring the Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane the following Monday, November 16th. As it turned out, the Airplane were in the middle of breaking up and Grace was pregnant. So instead of the Airplane, Hot Tuna filled in to share the bill with the Dead. A few days later, on November 18th and 19th, Traffic played at the Fillmore.

There are several pieces of evidence which now point directly to the “11/23/70 Anderson Theater” show being correctly identified as Fillmore East 11/16/70.

1] Traffic has been confirmed, in a letter written by the Kleinhans Music Hall, as having played at the Kleinhans Music Hall, Buffalo, NY on 11/23/70. This firmly places them out of New York City on that date. Thanks to Greg Shaw for this help.

2] Bill Graham introduces the Dead. The identification of his voice is clear, as never before, on this new transfer. Bill Graham and the owner of the Anderson Theater were not friendly with each other and Bill Graham would never have introduced the Grateful Dead in the Anderson Theater.

3] A 1:55 snippet of Hot Tuna playing Hesitation Blues precedes the Dead’s show on the first generation 10″ reel.

4] After Bob Weir sings the Frozen Logger off-mic, several people on stage can be heard attempting to get Jack Casady to join in saying, “Hey Casady, why don’t you play” and “Hey Jack, hey Jack, c’mon up”. Hot Tuna played on 11/16/70 at the Fillmore and they are not known to have played at the Anderson Theater.

5] An eyewitness who attended the 11/16/70 Fillmore show clearly recalls Steve Winwood and Jorma Kaukonen sitting in with the Dead.

6] Music was commonly played over the PA between sets at the Fillmore to promote upcoming shows. Elton John played at the Fillmore East the following weekend, November 20th and 21st as the warm up for Leon Russell. This was his first New York City appearance.

7] On page 382 in his book Long Strange Trip, Dennis McNally mentions this show as being from the Fillmore East, 11/16/70.

8] Finally, the 7″ reels, from which all previously circulating copies were made, are labeled (albeit misdated) “Fillmore Nov 2, 70″. Therefore, the misnomer “Anderson Theater, 11/23/70″ must have occurred sometime after the tapes entered circulation in 1973. It should be noted that the Grateful Dead did perform at the Anderson Theater on 11/23/70, however, no verified recordings of that event apparently circulate.

The order in which the songs occur has often been confused throughout the years. Breaks do occur in the recording so it cannot be said with absolute certainty that the order is correct. However, the current order is taken directly from the first generation 10″ reel, making the likelihood of rearrangement negligible.

If anything, any re-ordering occurred subsequent to its release into circulation in 1973. The placement of Elton John’s recording of Honky Tonk Women played over the house PA after only two songs remains a mystery. There is also an AUD fragment from 11/16/70 of Good Lovin’ with Jorma, Jack and Papa John Creach sitting in. Exactly where this jam fits in is not known. Clearly, the music we have does not represent the entire show.

Precisely what guest musicians appear in this recording and which tunes they play on may never be known. Any further intelligence on the matter would most certainly be welcome. Steve Winwood took over Pigpen’s Hammond organ beginning with Hard To Handle and he can clearly be heard through the end of Not Fade Away. Will Scarlet from Hot Tuna plays harp and his playing is evident during Big Railroad Blues, Truckin’ > The Other One and Uncle John’s Band. Three separate cheers arise from the crowd prior to Hard To Handle; the second of which is for Steve Winwood’s arrival on stage.

Who or what precipitated the other two cheers is impossible to tell. In the process of deciding what to play prior to the commencement of Mama Tried, Phil Lesh and Bob Weir can be heard to say, “What songs do you guys know?” “Yeah, you guys name a tune.” From this we can deduce that at least two other guest musicians were present on stage, however none of them can be discerned in the Mama Tried that follows. Other than Will Scarlet’s harp work during Truckin’ > The Other One and Uncle John’s Band, an organ can be heard in the first few minutes of Truckin’, but then mysteriously vanishes from the mix.

This new transfer represents a significant upgrade to all previously circulating versions. It is a direct A > D transfer from the original, first generation 10″ ¼ track reels, as opposed to the 7″ reels which Bill Gadsden originally copied in 1973; and again transferred A > D via Alesis Masterlink in 2000. The 7″ reels are one, if not two, generations further removed from the 10″ first generation source. Thanks to Bill Gadsden who diligently researched the accuracy of the actual venue & date of this show as Fillmore East 11/16/70 and sourced out the first generation reel.

It is my conviction that the myth of this show having taken place at the Anderson Theater on 11/23/70 can now firmly be put to rest. If anyone can offer factual evidence to the contrary, please contact me. Most of all please enjoy this all-time classic show!

Chuck Reynolds
[email protected]
May 8, 2003

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Pictures by Richard Volet, posted at archive.org - Thanks!

Lineage:
SBD: MR > Revox deck (model unknown): 10″ ¼ track Reel @ 7.5ips > Revox B77 playback deck > Alesis Masterlink ML9600 > CD > EAC > Cool Edit 2000 > SHN
A > D by Bill Gadsden.
Cool Edit 2000 was used for minor glitch removal.
CDWav was used to retrack both discs.
EAC (secure mode, offset corrected), seekable shorten encoding with MKW, and sector boundaries verified via shntool by D Winters.
Doinker’s additional lineage: SHN > TLH
> FLAC

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Disc 1
Track 101. Bill Graham intro/Casey Jones 5:01
Track 102. Me and My Uncle 4:37
Track 103. House PA Music, Elton John’s Honky Tonk Women 2:49
Track 104. Friend of the Devil 2:15
Track 105. Cold Rain and Snow 6:04
Track 106. I’m A King Bee 7:18
Track 107. China Cat Sunflower 5:47
Track 108. I Know You Rider 4:42
Track 109. Steve Winwood Arrives On Stage 2:07
Track 110. Hard To Handle 8:07
Track 111. Big Railroad Blues 5:13
54 mins

Disc 2
Track 201. Not Fade Away 9:19
Track 202. Goin’ Down the Road Feelin’ Bad 5:44
Track 203. Not Fade Away 2:52
Track 204. Stage talk 2:01
Track 205. Frozen Logger 1:27
Track 206. Mama Tried 3:37
Track 207. Truckin’ 5:48
Track 208. The Other One 11:25
Track 209. Uncle John’s Band 7:04
50 mins

* Steve Winwood on Pigpen’s Hammond Organ. Steve Winwood also provides vocal accompaniment on NFA>GDTRFB>NFA and 1st vocal verse of NFA.
+ Will Scarlet on harmonica.

Track 103 - Analog distortions and channel dropouts from unknown source, possibly a loose plug in the master reel to reel deck.
Track 104 - Approximately 30 seconds missing.
Track 111 - First few seconds clipped.
Track 207 - Some distortion of Steve Winwood’s vocals at the very end.
As with any 30-year-old tape, various analog gremlins and anomalies exist.

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  1. 35 Responses to “THE GRATEFUL DEAD WITH STEVE WINWOOD - FILLMORE EAST 1970”

  2. I am doing research on these men’s genitals. I will report back soon.

    By U L E on Aug 8, 2020

  3. Thanks BigO. I had no Dead from this date or from the wrong date so this will be new to me. Looking forward to it.

    By sking on Aug 8, 2020

  4. Thank you kindly

    By Chin Ho on Aug 8, 2020

  5. Do Go Genital Into the Night

    By Yummy on Aug 8, 2020

  6. Never understood why you yanks loved this band so much. MOR Country BS if you ask me

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  7. Derrick, you never understood music beyond what was on the radio. Just like a high school girl.

    By HHH on Aug 9, 2020

  8. Muslims don’t believe in Santa Claus. But I believe his wife’s name was Santa Monica and he created the universe in six days and on the seventh day the village idiot snuck in and created nigras.

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  9. None of these fuckin comments was me . More Dic suckin , Jew bastard name hijackers

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  10. Never cared for the Grateful Dead . Boring as shit band to me . Was more of a Jefferson Airplane guy myself from that time period. Airplane kicked ass in the late 60s early 70s. Had a crush on Grace Slick . She was a fox back then , she’s a old hag now sad to say .

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  11. Think Jorma , Jack Casady ,and Grace is the only ones still alive . Marty Balin croaked awhile ago . Paul Kantner , Spencer Dryden also dead . Anti , DD , triple h . I’m feelin old as shit . Surrealistic Pillow abd Vollenteers , two of my favorite albums growin up

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  12. Remember Surrealistic Pillow , The Doors first album . Hendrix , are you experienced , and Sgt Pepper all comin out in 67 around the same time . What a fuckin time to be a music fan

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  13. Think Jimmy Page was still in the yardbirds, Clapton in Cream . Stones released Satanic majesties request , their only pyscadelic album

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  14. DD : remember when the stones was on Ed Sullivan , and Ed told them to change the words to let’s spend the night together? Jagger sang lets spend some time together, while rollin his eyes

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  15. Ed Sullivan was a powerful dude in showbiz . He could make or break you . Remember when he blackballed comedian Jackie Mason in the 60s for givin him the finger , after Ed told him time was up

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  16. Twernt me above. Nuther fake

    By U L E. on Aug 9, 2020

  17. Rumor has it The Dead was a band of Big Uns and one Lil Un

    By U L E. on Aug 9, 2020

  18. With Jerry being the Lil Un . The rest all Big Uns

    By U L E. on Aug 9, 2020

  19. I love thinking about penis.

    By U L E on Aug 9, 2020

  20. You r sick

    By Derrick on Aug 9, 2020

  21. Rumor has it Derrick doesn’t have one at all.

    By U L E on Aug 9, 2020

  22. To whom can I report the name stealers to? This has become beyond frustrating and very disruptive to our conversations here. I want them gone. Derrick, Anti and I were here first.

    By HHH on Aug 9, 2020

  23. I was at this show on Nov 16, 1970 at Fillmore East. Can’t wait to hear it now after 50 years!! The notes with the posting are amazing but I recall things about that show and that week a bit differently. Would like to discuss with someone involved with the show and/or these tapes. Please post a contact or write to me. Thank you. Alan

    By Alan Wolmark on Aug 9, 2020

  24. Wayne Fontana 74 #1 The Game Of Love was a chart and bar band staple in the 1960s and beyond, has died at age 74. His band name was Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders.

    By ScarRad on Aug 9, 2020

  25. Many of their songs were written by Graham Gouldman or Eric Stewart. later of 10cc, who also gave songs to Yardbirds & others.

    By sking on Aug 10, 2020

  26. I liked the Mindbenders song 96 Tears.

    By Derrick on Aug 10, 2020

  27. I remember 1977 when Saturday Night Fever came out and ABBA’s Arrival album. Soon to follow was Grease & The Bee Gees Sargent Peppers. Damn. I took my Firedragon down to the yacht club where they had a light up dance floor. That was good times. One night I drank so much I puked on the dance floor. Good times & polyester.

    By Derrick on Aug 10, 2020

  28. I made all of that up. I spent most of that year alone and jacking off to Sears catalogs.

    By Derrick on Aug 10, 2020

  29. Shut up bragging Derrick!

    By HHH on Aug 10, 2020

  30. HEY I was at this concert. I always wanted a copy of it. Thank you. It was a typical crazy DEAD night. Thanks for the memories.

    By Buzzcut9 on Aug 11, 2020

  31. That is SO interesting, Buzzcunt69!

    By HHH on Aug 11, 2020

  32. Fascinating addition. Thanks for posting this and to all those who had a part in researching the details. Job well done!

    By Macca on Aug 11, 2020

  33. THANK YOU! Great sound; this is as good as skull & Roses (similar era, some of the same songs) but a lot quieter and subdued. Jerry Garcia’s playing is outstanding. GDTR is an absolute standout.

    By Eric (The Other Eric) on Aug 12, 2020

  34. Stop postin about music . This is a penis message board

    By Derrick on Aug 12, 2020

  35. I am the greatest and I have the biggest horse dic there is BEBE. Ill whip it out 4 u baby

    By The Donald on Aug 12, 2020

  36. On This Day… 12 August 1970
    I had a day off.

    By Jimmy Page on Aug 12, 2020

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