CREAM - DETROIT 1967

October 22, 2020 – 5:34 am

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CREAM
Creme de la Cream [no label, 2CD]

Live at the Grande Ballroom, Detroit, MI; October 15, 1967. Very good audience/on stage recording. New mix - centred vocals.

Thanks to ZBYSZEK3K for sharing the show on the net.

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wardphillips, Dime:

Often cited as the live Cream recording with the best combination of perfomance and audio quality. While the latter is very good for a non-professional, direct to stereo tape from 1967, the stereo image of the original is arguably not as good as it could be. The show was reportedly taped by Jim McCarty (of Cactus) with Cream’s permission; legend has it that in exchange, the band was given a bag of crystal meth… Be that as it may, the perfomance is, in any case, superb. The date is apparently that of the Sunday evening’s concert, although this is not absolutely certain. (There were also shows at the same venue on the Friday and Saturday nights, October 13-14, 1967.)

There is a reel change before ‘Spoonful’ (a test tone has here been edited out just before it kicks off); it has been reported that the recording speed was dropped from 7.5 to 3.75 ips during the song to capture the rest of the perfomance on the second reel, and this may well be the case, as the hiss level seems to go up somewhat. The quality also drops a bit particularly towards the end (during ‘I’m So Glad’). The first reel fades out on the source after ‘Rollin’ and Tumblin’, and it has also been speculated that an incomplete song (’Sunshine of Your Love’?) has been left out of the transfer.

As written, the quality of the source is near excellent for live tapes of this vintage (although the bass is a bit poorly defined) but still it seemed that it could be improved upon using software tools now available. Different demixing techniques were first used to partially separate the bass, drums, guitar, and vocal “stems”, after some initial high frequency hiss reduction to improve the separation process.

Using the stems, it was then possible to rebalance the instruments in the stereo field up to a point, while also evening out some jumps in relative volume levels. The general aim was to move the vocals more to the center, while keeping the bass and guitar left and right, respectively. As far as possible, the drums were also pulled together a bit more to the center. The result is hopefully a slightly more cohesive and easier listening experience, where the guitar does not dominate too much and the rest of the band (the PA mix) is not crammed to the side.

A Nite Owl production (NO-2019-11).

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Lineage:
PA mixer [left channel] + guitar mike (Sennheiser MD421?) [right channel] > reel-to-reel (Revox?) > (digital clone?) > “Sun Vanishes” bootleg CD [Mid Valley 031/2] > FLAC
Remix summary: hiss reduction, demixing (stem & percussion separation) > remixing & mastering (32 bit) > dither to 16 bit FLAC

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Disc 1 (Reel 1)
Track 101. Tales of Brave Ulysses 4:25
Track 102. NSU 16:34
Track 103. Sitting on Top of the World 4:20
Track 104. Sweet Wine 14:26
Track 105. Rollin’ and Tumblin’ 7:31
48 mins

Disc 2 (Reel 2)
Track 201. Spoonful 21:53
Track 202. Steppin’ Out 10:57
Track 203. Traintime 7:31
Track 204. Toad 17:53
Track 205. I’m So Glad 10:16
69 mins

Lineup:
Jack Bruce - bass, lead vocals, harp
Eric Clapton - guitar, vocals
Ginger Baker - drums

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  1. 37 Responses to “CREAM - DETROIT 1967”

  2. Rumor has it this was a band of Big Uns

    By U L E on Oct 22, 2020

  3. With Eric being the Biggest Un

    By U L E on Oct 22, 2020

  4. DD , triple h , some good fuckin classic rock here . Too bad cream didn’t last longer . Fuck man , music like sports sure was better in the 60s and 70s

    By Derrick on Oct 22, 2020

  5. this is the shit derrick. life was so great then being a young kid. poontang, led zep, woodstock,world trade center, niggers knowing their place. look at the cesspool we have now. dip mark and u l e into a well filled with horseshit and keep dippin them

    By DD on Oct 22, 2020

  6. pamela whats your fave technique the twist and bob, deepthroat or stroking it up and down with a head twist. ive had all 3 was wondering what the rockers liked

    By swappers on Oct 22, 2020

  7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s-LQUHniWw

    Derrick/HHH check out the master at work.greatest guitarist

    By DD on Oct 22, 2020

  8. Thanks for the upload DD . It looks to me like that was in the studio during the Physical Graffiti sessions around 74 75 . Page and Plant actually in the studio at the same time . Today’s worthless music would probably be done by computers wit that auto tune shit . No good rock music like this no fuckin more

    By Derrick on Oct 22, 2020

  9. Was that a different drummer doin in my time of dying ? It didn’t look like Bonzo . Catch the next video after that . Page and Coverdale doin black dog live in 93 during their tour together. David Coverdale knocks it out of the fuckin park . He sounds like Plant back in 70 71. Heard plant was jealous of Coverdale who had some pipes . Plant never sounded the same after 72

    By Derrick on Oct 22, 2020

  10. Pas moi mes braves . . . . .dumb as soup playground imposter

    By swappers on Oct 22, 2020

  11. that was coverdale and page rehearsing

    By DD on Oct 22, 2020

  12. I`ll take this over 90% of today`s autotuned talentless crap anyday. thanks

    By sluggo on Oct 22, 2020

  13. “Hello my friends, So happy to see you again.” This is a Music site.(”Broken bottles, broken plates”) For an “Audience” tape the Vocals are remarkable here! With the exception of Master Marshall, Cream was the best Live group of it’s day.) Howevers, I owe A Spacial Hello to the insecure filibusters, masquerading as people. They have lamentable, debilitating psychiatric issues - with Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Gays and other minorities. These weak cowards exhibit an afflicted range of unstable sociopath qualities having - but not limited to: Extensive Antisocial Problems. Simply diagnosed: “Clinical Inability To Think.” Symptoms include: Bias, Predispose, Discrimination, and Bigotry. They Don’t dig words like “Community”, “Justice”, “Civility”, “Impartiality” and “Inclusive”. For them: It IS imperative to seek comprehensive Medical attention including across-the-board Hospitalization. (”Broken dishes, broken parts,”) While Unlikely, with Generous amounts of remedial tutoring they Could learn something known as “manners” through an appropriately advanced concept called “Cognizance.” Howevers, Scientific tests - engineered Globally - exhibit a .00001% chance of their acquiring an ant’s brain wave activity - Leading to possible/plausible intellect through “attention span.” Further please note: Prevailing data reveals implausible acumen or “Grasping” as in “grasping an idea”. (”Streets are filled with broken hearts.”) Finally, a Compassionate Note regarding these non-music sap-heads: Exhaustive, yet methodical documents acknowledge Actual evidence their bed wetting episodes may be moderately treated w/a gentle anally provided enema.
    Remember: We, as Music Lovers, will be Here - Long, Long (i.e. Long) after their deteriorating brain washed condition collapses. Heaven Research: “Pointing their plastic finger at me
    They’re hoping soon my kind will drop and die
    But I’m gonna wave my freak flag high, high
    Wave on, wave on”

    By harmon on Oct 22, 2020

  14. shut the fuck up hardon

    By TJ on Oct 22, 2020

  15. i needs me an enema. derriere u wanna volunteer

    By U L E on Oct 22, 2020

  16. So DD , that wasn’t Plant in the studio? Couldn’t see his face . I thought he sounded too good for it to be in 74 75 . Plants voice was shot by then

    By Derrick on Oct 22, 2020

  17. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L0JvdDLDd4

    Derrick chek this out, THat was David Coverdale. Page was playing slide on the danelectro. you could tell he put on weight. he was off the h

    By DD on Oct 22, 2020

  18. plants voice was never the same after 73 in my opinion. when i saw them in 70 71 72 73 plant sounded llike he did on the albums. they said he never warmed up his voice thats why his voice was shot. daltry nnever lost his voice and he screamed just as much

    By DD on Oct 22, 2020

  19. Impressive information, DD. You are a walking encyclopedia of musical knowledge.

    By HHH on Oct 23, 2020

  20. DD is a jerkoff, HHH. I forgot more than he’ll ever know.

    By Derrick on Oct 23, 2020

  21. Fuck you too you pants shitting asshole!

    By Derrick on Oct 23, 2020

  22. I was lying Derrick, you cumsucking shithead.

    By HHH on Oct 23, 2020

  23. DD is too fucking stupid to see that too! LMAO!

    By HHH on Oct 23, 2020

  24. The last two were not mine. Please know that I would never speak to Derrick or David that way.

    By HHH on Oct 23, 2020

  25. DD , plants voice started turning for the worse shortly after the May , June 72 US tour

    By Derrick on Oct 23, 2020

  26. They toured Japan in October 72 and you could see a big difference from just a few months earlier

    By Derrick on Oct 23, 2020

  27. They kept touring Europe after Japan , Monster tour wit out a break . His voice got worse and worse . By the time the 73 U S tour came his voice was completely shot .

    By Derrick on Oct 23, 2020

  28. Got lots of bootlegs of Zep . 69 thru the first half of 72 was plants peak . Don’t know what he did to his voice , but it was never the same .Like you said Roger Daltry screamed as much as plant and he still sounds pretty good for an old dude

    By Derrick on Oct 23, 2020

  29. Funny how Daltry and Plant are friends , so was moon and Bonham . Pete hates page for some reason. What’s that about ? Envious of Page ?

    By Derrick on Oct 23, 2020

  30. Pete always trashes Zep for some reason

    By Derrick on Oct 23, 2020

  31. I also read that plant and coverdale hate each other. I figure the album cover of Presence with the obelisk is similar to the page/coverdale album cover with the road sign. You look at coverdale for a quick minute and u think its plant. Never was a coverdale fan but he compliments page well on their only album. His lyric skills suck compared to plant

    By DD on Oct 23, 2020

  32. Derrick and David sound like two never was nuthin butt homos. Sweet Christ, you two are such losers. LOL @ U FAGS

    By U L E on Oct 23, 2020

  33. I cant help but loves taking it up the arse. Im a lonely sad pathetic lil sissy

    By U L E on Oct 23, 2020

  34. Rest In Peace Van. What a marvelous nite for a buttfuck

    By U L E on Oct 23, 2020

  35. Derrick and David sound like two never was nuthin butt homos. Sweet Christ, you two are such losers. LOL @ U FAGS. Pathetic

    By U L E on Oct 23, 2020

  36. Last four was all fakes . Twernt me

    By U L E on Oct 24, 2020

  37. This tape fortunately shows Cream at their most adventurous. They really set a new standard for rock improvisation. Not least Jack Bruce taking the bass guitar to previously unseen heights.

    By bodhi on Oct 25, 2020

  38. Mcarty was in Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels. The creem were blown off of the stage by the MC5. Just like Janis…

    By ptg0 on Nov 3, 2020

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