February 24, 2012 – 1:31 pm

This was the standout collection of live Moby Grape before the official release in 2010.

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Dark Magic [Haight Street, 2CD]

Released in 1997. This unofficial release collected live tracks from 1966 to 1969 plus an early 1965 recording. Very good to excellent sound.

This 1997 bootleg has the original Moby Grape lineup: Jerry Miller, Skip Spence, Bob Mosley, Peter Lewis and Don Stevenson. It was released when Skip Spence was still alive. Spence died in 1999 aged 52.

The heart of the band was surprisingly not live but in the studio. When Sundazed Records released Moby Grape Live in 2010, they offered only half of the Amsterdam radio broadcast, reordering the sequence of the show and omitting performances that were sub par.

It would appear that the compilers of this set also made judicious editing to offer the best bits of shows from the Avalon Ballroom, the Winterland, Stony Brook and at unidentified venues. That said, if you want pristine sound quality, spend your money wisely and buy a copy of Moby Grape Live.
- The Little Chicken

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Disc 1
101. Introduction At Monterey Pop Festival - Omitted*
102. Indifference - Omitted*
103. Mr. Blues - Omitted*
104. Sitting By The Window - Omitted*
105. Omaha - Omitted*
Track 106. Millers Blues (12.3MB)
Track 107. Hey Grandma (3.7MB)
Track 108. Sitting By The Window (4.8MB)
Track 109. Omaha (3.3MB)
Track 110. Going Nowhere (3.2MB)
111. Sweet Little Angel - Omitted*
Track 112. I Am Not Willing (6.5MB)
Track 113. Honky Tonk Blues (14.1MB)
Track 114. Bitter Wind (7.6MB)
Track 115. Murder In My Heart For The Judge (29.5MB)
Track 116. Dark Magic (11.0MB)

Tracks 1-5 recorded at The Monterey Pop Festival, Monterey, Ca., June 16, 1967 1697.
Track 6 recorded at The Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco, Ca., 1968
Tracks 7-9 recorded at Steve Paul’s Scene, New York City, 1968
Tracks 10-15 unknown venue, 1967
Track 16 recorded at Winterland, San Francisco, Ca., 1967

Disc 2
Track 201. $20 Blues (17.4MB)
Track 202. Hey Grandma Blues (12.5MB)
Track 203. Changes (7.2MB)
204. Dark Magic Part 1 - Omitted*
205. Dark Magic Part 2 - Omitted*
Track 206. Looper (3.7MB)
Track 207. 8:05 (3.2MB)
Track 208. Learn From Your Mistakes (5.0MB)
Track 209. Can’t Be So Bad (6.2MB)
Track 210. Sitting By The Window (5.2MB)
Track 211. Fall On You (3.8MB)
Track 212. It’s A Beautiful Day (11.1MB)
Track 213. Big Boss Man (9.1MB)
Track 214. Seeing Hey Mama (7.3MB)
Track 215. Bitter Wind I Can Only Give You Everything (4.2MB)

Tracks 1-2 recorded unknown venue, July 23, 1968
Tracks 3-5 recorded at The Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco, Ca., Dec 31, 1966
Tracks 6-7 recorded at Winterland, 1967
Tracks 8-13 recorded at Stony Brook University, Stony Brook, N.Y., 1969
Tracks 14-15 Peter & The Wolves 45, PW#500, Los Angeles, 1965 featuring Peter Lew

* All omitted tracks can be found on Sundazed Records’ Moby Grape Live.

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  1. 13 Responses to “BEFORE MOBY GRAPE LIVE”

  2. im so happy. hehe. this is my stuff here. altho i hate having to put stuff together but i understand.

    By darth on Feb 24, 2012

  3. Geez…I know I’m old, but was the Monterrey Festival REALLY in 1697?? :-)

    By ken on Feb 25, 2012

  4. Wow Wow Wow Thanks Thanks Thanks BigO.
    Moby Grape always have been a big fave and this is truly fab, even with the ommited tracks.
    I will combine this and your previous post to make a truly wonderfully ragged compilation.

    The official release somehow slipped under my radar but this also will go on my must buy list.

    One again many thanks.

    By Russ on Feb 25, 2012

  5. So I go away for a couple days and come back and find this bunch of Grapes. For those of you who think BigO doesn’t listen you are wrong. I requested a Grape show and BigO came through Big time. Although this isn’t the particular show I asked for these have probably the best sound of any I’ve collected. So Right On BigO and Thank You. Keep ‘em coming.

    By sking on Feb 25, 2012

  6. Hello Ken

    Thanks… and not that old we hope. Cheers.

    By bigozine2 on Feb 25, 2012

  7. Skiing - if BigO is taking requests then I would like some Warren Zevon and Social Distortion. And BigO - thanks for the Grapes…

    By TDC on Feb 25, 2012

  8. Rolling Stone included Jerry at number 68 on their list of the 100 greatest guitarists of all time.

    I always enjoyed the review of this Dark Magic album at AMG:


    by Richie Unterberger

    A double CD of unreleased live performances from 1966-69, as well as the rare mid-’60s single by Peter & the Wolves, a garage band that featured Peter Lewis. This isn’t a bad thing for the serious Moby Grape fan to have, although the quality of both the performances and the audio is quite variable. The five songs from their 1967 slot on the Monterey Pop Festival are up to the level of official release; three songs cut at a New York club in 1968 are almost as good. The rest is rougher (though usually of listenable fidelity), and shows them prone to much more aimless blues jamming than they were wont to deploy on their official albums. There are some nice renditions of standbys like “Omaha” and “Sitting By the Window” here, as well as more obscure numbers like “I Am Not Willing,” “Bitter Wind,” and “It’s a Beautiful Day,” but these aren’t as polished or memorable as the studio versions. It does provide an interesting snapshot of the group as they sounded onstage, and although the price tag is steep, it’s certainly good value for the money, clocking in at over 75 minutes per disc — something to remember next time you read a quote from some music industry official claiming that bootlegs are the biggest consumer ripoffs on the planet.

    By sking on Feb 25, 2012

  9. tdc - a couple of years back i went to the audio archive cuz i was particularly missing warren and i needed to hear all i could get my hands on and found 58 full concerts of him there. there are more there now. but 58 shows should make u happy.
    if u are ever in the mood to cry do a search for his last letterman appearance on youtube. the entire nite exists on there in 4 parts and while his voice is quite rough anyone who loved him will have a very hard time holding back tears.

    if there is going to be some social distortion posted a good friend of mine is going to be so happy.
    if i can post requests how about some my morning jacket please?
    i am also into early 70s thru mid 80s german progrock electronic rock spacerock. anything from the krautrock era. i know u have put up a few tangerine dream items and a kraftwerk and one or two other items but im hoping for a little more. and one more? how about that ringo starr 4 song set from the troubadour in la ca on jan 30th this year. it was brdcst on sirius radio. please???? i cant find it anywhere.

    By darth on Feb 25, 2012

  10. I have always had a special liking for Bob Mosley out of all the Grape. He has one of the best voices in Rock/Blues/Whatever and his bass was always awesome! I just cannot believe that this is all we have from them live plus a few others that have made it to bootlegs thru the years. If you compare all the SF posters that are available that show all the live dates MG have played, it is inconceivable that we don’t have a 10 box set of all the live gigs. I just don’t understand. Wasn’t someone recording??

    By lanzarishi on Feb 25, 2012

  11. Hi Big-o, Tracks 14 & 15 are not The Peter & The Wolves 45 from 1965 as listed in the sources. They are live and sound fairly recent.Track #14 is Seeing and #15 is Bitterwind.Thanks for the Grape.

    By Bill H. on Feb 26, 2012

  12. Hello Bill

    Thanks for the feedback. Cheers.

    By bigozine2 on Feb 26, 2012

  13. The “unknown venue” for the July 23, 1968 performance is the Fillmore West.

    By RMH on Jun 10, 2012

  14. The music of Moby Grape belongs in the top 95% of great rock and roll. This is only my gut feelings.They would have to be on my desert island. Hope many people will be exposed to their music and decide for themselves. Of course I would’t want to know anyone who doesn’t like them. Just kidding, Thank you.

    By pat mitchell on Feb 25, 2017

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