YES - LOS ANGELES 1980

August 23, 2013 – 5:18 am

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YES
Los Angeles 1980 [no label, 2CD]

Live at the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena, Los Angeles, CA; October 3, 1980. Good to fairly/very good audience recording (some say Mike Millard origin).

If you are looking for a Drama-era Yes show, this one’s for you. [First Yes album without vocalist Jon Anderson. And Rick Wakeman had also left - again - by then.]

Thanks to BarnyzFrank for sharing the show at Dime.

BarnyzFrank’s Notes 01Oct2012:

I found these files on my hard drive with file dates from four years ago and I don’t remember when I downloaded them or from where… I also made sure that none of these recordings have been released commercially. The sound is very good and I think it is a sound board recording. Enjoy. - SparkyZ (Update: Looks like I’m wrong about this being sbd, but it is a really good aud. Some comments speculate that it is a Mike Millard recording.)

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Disc 1
Track 101. Young Persons Guide To The Orchestra/Apocalypse (5.8MB)
Track 102. Does It Really Happen? (12.4MB)
Track 103. Yours Is No Disgrace (19.0MB)
Track 104. Into The Lens (15.1MB)
Track 105. Clap (9.1MB)
Track 106. And You And I (19.1MB)
Track 107. Go Through This (7.6MB)
Track 108. Man In The White Car Suite (12.4MB)
Track 109. We Can Fly From Here (10.8MB)

Disc 2
Track 201. Tempus Fugit (11.2MB)
Track 202. Amazing Grace/The Fish (Schindleria Praematurus) (20.7MB)
Track 203. Machine Messiah (19.2MB)
Track 204. Starship Trooper (17.9MB)
Track 205. Roundabout (13.9MB)

Lineup :
Geoff Downes - keyboards
Trevor Horn - vocals
Steve Howe - guitars
Chris Squire - bass
Alan White - drums

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  1. 117 Responses to “YES - LOS ANGELES 1980”

  2. NO

    By pure drivel on Aug 23, 2013

  3. I’m not a purist about what the “real” Yes is supposed to be - I saw this tour when they played Washington DC and thought it wasn’t bad. But Horn had a lot of trouble hitting the higher notes, and he’s worse here.

    By thor on Aug 23, 2013

  4. oh most definitely yes.Yes!

    By pure drivel swill on Aug 23, 2013

  5. This is passable just going with music. But I agree with thor. Horn has trouble singing.

    By 5yrsnojob on Aug 23, 2013

  6. there is an fm of a short bit from another performance on this tour. it may be the spectrum in phila. i dont recall the date but it was either 9-13 or 10-17. i know they did both nites there. i seem to recall that it was only 45mins. the recording itself not the entire performance. i have it but not at hand.

    i saw more than 15 shows on this tour. i loved this tour even tho it didnt have jon on vocals. i was very lucky with tickets. it was my first foray into the world of scalping and i ended up making a killing before jon and rick left the band. thank god.
    they did over 60 shows on this tour. filmed several of them. the first 3 i saw were the garden ones in early sept. from the front row. they were incredible shows. steve and chris were on fire. i was a beginner photographer with a crappy camera and i did fantastic. 33 years ago!! ahhh memories. thanks bigo.

    i was so happy when jon came back 4 yrs later for that massive tour but sadly the material sucked. the fans and i agreed with them.. realized the 70s were gone.

    By darth on Aug 23, 2013

  7. Well…. that was quick! Thanks BigO! I’ll check this out!!

    By Tom on Aug 23, 2013

  8. Not my favourite era of this great band. Downes and Horn, come on, those losers of a lonely heart. Listening to this line-up gives me no pleasure at all. Just as spooky is listening to the current line-up with the second clone of Jon Anderson in two years. Yes without Anderson is like Genesis without Gabriel: it sucks.

    By tony on Aug 23, 2013

  9. darth–I have a radio recording of Yes at MSG from Sept. 6, 1980. Still remember sitting next to my stereo while recording it, knowing I’d see them at the Spectrum a week later.

    By JV on Aug 23, 2013

  10. jv. no u dont. it was never brdcst on radio. what u may have is another show that is mislabeled. the garden wasnt brdcst. sorry.

    By darth on Aug 23, 2013

  11. btw.. this just in about hawkind founder nik turner -
    http://ultimateclassicrock.com/nik-turner-album-tour-2013/

    By darth on Aug 23, 2013

  12. darth knows

    By darthnose on Aug 23, 2013

  13. i absolutely do know this without any doubt 100% guaranteed positively!!! yes. there is 0% chance i am wrong on this. no chance in hell whatsoever!!
    unless…

    By darth on Aug 23, 2013

  14. Thanks, BigO!! Loved this album, as it had a great sound that was different for yes…and Steve Howe does some great power chords. Not traditional Yes…but I loved it. But…I also loved Trevor Yes. Darth: Get a life.

    By DanC on Aug 24, 2013

  15. From the net:
    http://forgotten-yesterdays.com/dates.asp?qtourid=10&qdateid=557

    I have the show from Dime. I’ll listen to it today.
    You’re right, JV

    By DanC on Aug 24, 2013

  16. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yes_concert_tours#Drama_Tour

    By DanC on Aug 24, 2013

  17. Yes, Sept. 6, 1980 Radio Broadcast from MSG: http://tinyurl.com/mr2bvdu

    “Several years ago I gathered up all the sources I had to this FM broadcast and made a 2-disc set which was the most complete version of the show I’d heard.

    FM broadcasts > CDs > SoundForge > CD > FLAC > you

    Yes
    Madison Square Garden
    NYC, NY
    Sept. 6, 1980″

    darth knows nothing.

    By darth no's on Aug 24, 2013

  18. There’s a live version of Video Killed the Radio Star on YouTube that’s excellent. Trevor Horn must have had some type of throat ailment.

    By George Martini on Aug 24, 2013

  19. darth’s bragging about “making a killing” scalping tickets!!!! Can there be any doubt that he’s a troll intentionally pissing people off for attention?

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 24, 2013

  20. the source is not fm on that show. regardless what u type in here. it is another source. either that or the venue is incorrect. i am absolutely 100% positive on this. they did not brdcst the show from the garden. but believe what u wish.

    By darth on Aug 24, 2013

  21. inn - and youre not trying intentionally to piss me off? why is it acceptable for u when your victim is me? why does it affect u when u werent a buyer of my tickets? if a few suits that were willing to pay $1500 for 2 tickets in the front row in order to be seen with hotties on their arms bothers u then u need to get your priorities in gear. i had heard that jon and rick might be leaving the band and i did all i could to dump the tickets asap. i kept mine for all 3 nites and made sure i got to see as many shows on the tour as i could. i was 20 yrs old. i was happy to see them. i know for a fact that there were other venues on the tour that were fm’d but there are mistakes in labeling and things happen over time and i can assure the others among u here that if u find anything labeled the garden that is labeled fm it is either not the garden or it is not an fm. it is not both. the spectrum was brdcst. i do have one of those. the length is 45mins. if u get ahold of a few audience recordings u can compare these and see the few differences and pick up why one show isnt the other show. thats why i said i was absolutely positive of this.
    i stayed home on the nite of the spectrum show and recorded it myself. about 4 yrs later i got a copy twice as long from someone in japan or germany. by july 2002 i had over 500 hours of rare live and unreleased yes etc. i did the work and research on this already. there is a lot of misinformation out there. if u wish to download a recording that says msgn 9-6-80 and believe its fm thats fine. i know it isnt accurate. there were other brdcsts later on this tour that were longer lengths.

    By darth on Aug 24, 2013

  22. darth, stop embarrassing yourself. Three different sources were cited which prove you wrong. Your memory is unreliable, it’s impossible to believe anything you say. Have you already forgotten that you said “Crossroads” on Wheels Of Fire was a studio recording? It’s barely amusing at this point, you need to see a professional. There’s no need to reply or argue, just stop.

    By Dingus on Aug 24, 2013

  23. each source is likely using one of the previous sources. theyre not correct. i am not worried about what u believe. i gave u the facts. its up to u to do what u wish at this point. this isnt based on memory. the crossroads thing was memory. if u dont want a reply.. dont make a comment in my direction.

    i said i was positive about this.

    By darth on Aug 25, 2013

  24. darth, for god’s sake, admit you’re wrong, apologize, and shut the fuck up.

    And, by the way, if you don’t know what’s wrong with scalping tickets, you’re a sociopath. I’m starting to wonder if you’re actually a troll or just an utterly reprehensible individual who’s honestly proud of his thoroughly selfish, amoral life of ripping people off. Is making this world a little bit uglier the only way you think you can make an impact, darth? How sad.

    By Constructive Criticism and Friendly Advice on Aug 25, 2013

  25. just ignore the trolls on here darth.they’re reprehensible individuals

    By apolitical phturd on Aug 25, 2013

  26. Hey darth, I have only one thing to say to you, You’re a SWINE!

    By JOL on Aug 26, 2013

  27. only swine here is you,lol

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 26, 2013

  28. i needed to get my tickets to see the band play as much as i could. a guy i knew had the cash to buy tickets. i was willing to use his money to buy tickets for him. at first all i had to do is get #s by standing online and see how well i could do by getting as many low #s as i could. he was astonished i could get so many #s as i could. yes was the only band putting tickets on sale a year before the shows were going to happen. they were famous for doing this for years. i did so well for this friend of mine he gave me my tickets to see the shows and as a gift also gave me a couple of extras to show me his gratitude. i knew a few ppl who were willing to pay big money for front row so since they would pay someone $1500 per ticket for tickets that people later couldnt give away because of the jon/rick fiasco i took advantage of that opportunity. especially since i knew about 2-3 months ahead of time that something was up in the yes camp. those sales saved my life and kept me alive in 1980. they helped me buy the parts to produce buttons which i manufactured and sold at the wall concerts in feb that year and turned over and ended up with over $35000 by selling small pinback buttons outside of nassau col. in a week. i drew a brick wall on a white piece of paper and wrote the words pink floyd the wall on it and sold them for $2 each. i xeroxed 2 different designs. yeah ill take being called swine. 33 years ago and i made a killing selling a couple of tickets and a shitload of buttons to fans. then i took photos of famous people and sold them to more fans and newspapers and magazines that people who enjoy reading about and looking at bought. yep.. ill take those words u toss at me all day long. i laugh at the superior minds.

    By darth on Aug 26, 2013

  29. i drew a brick wall on a white piece of paper and wrote the words pink floyd the wall on it and sold them for $2 each

    you and your fabricated troll stories, you couldn`t draw a straight line.

    By darthnose on Aug 26, 2013

  30. it was my first foray into the world of scalping and i ended up making a killing before jon and rick left the band

    nice, always willing to make a buck off others.

    By darthnose on Aug 26, 2013

  31. how would u know if theyre fabricated? why assume theyre fabricated? i dont know why u throw in the word troll in there. that makes no sense at all. how would u know if i could draw a straight line or not? to say such a thing makes no sense. btw.. i used a straight edge for the horizontal lines of course.
    whats wrong with making a buck off others? isnt that what business is all about? how do u make a living if u dont make a buck off others? what business in this country or any other country doesnt make a buck off others? thats how the economy works u know. people spend money for things they want. supply and demand. i knew thered be a demand for a product and i was 19 yrs old at the time so i figured why not fill it. i had been producing buttons since i was 17 or so and figured theres a money making opportunity there why not take advantage of it.
    make sure that u have a response to everything i post. dont let one go by now.

    By darth on Aug 27, 2013

  32. I’m either weak on Yes history or have no memory — at the time I remember being very surprised that they pulled the Jon/Rick switcheroo after people had bought tickets assuming they would be in the band (or maybe I have my chronology wrong). Can anyone fill me in on exactly what happened, and why the Horn/Downes lineup died after one album?

    By thor on Aug 27, 2013

  33. jon and rick fixed their issues with the other members and rejoined before the next album came out.
    given the choice of having jon and rick in the classic yes line up or another drama line up who wouldnt want the classic yes?

    they had left after the tickets had already been sold for the entire tour and the management of course didnt want to return over 60 shows worth of ticket money to all those fans. this way they could still put on the show by adding the buggles to the line up. it isnt a bad album really. course its no relayer or tales from topographic oceans or close to the edge.

    By darth on Aug 27, 2013

  34. thor - it should be noted btw that the classic line up didnt happen immediately after the buggles left yes in early 81. this took a couple of years to happen. ill paste some portion from the much loved wikipedia below for u -

    In October 1979, the band convened in Paris with producer Roy Thomas Baker. Their diverse approach was now succumbing to division, as Anderson and Wakeman favoured the more fantastical and delicate approach while the rest preferred a heavier rock sound. Howe, Squire and White liked none of the music Anderson was offering at the time as it was too lightweight and lacking in the heaviness that they were generating in their own writing sessions. The Paris sessions abruptly ended in December after White broke his foot while rollerskating. When the band, minus Wakeman (who had only committed to recording keyboard overdubs once new material would be ready to record) reconvened in February to resume work on the project, their growing musical differences, combined with internal dissension, obstructed progress. Journalist Chris Welch, after attending a rehearsal, noted that Anderson “was singing without his usual conviction and seemed disinclined to talk”. By late March, Howe, Squire and White had begun demoing material as an instrumental trio, increasingly uncertain about Anderson’s future involvement. Eventually, neither he nor Wakeman would participate in the finished album.

    Commercial failure and band split (1980–1981)Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn as The Buggles.In 1980, pop duo The Buggles that was formed of keyboardist Geoffrey Downes and singer Trevor Horn acquired Brian Lane as a manager. The pair had a worldwide hit with the single “Video Killed the Radio Star”, and were working in the same rehearsal complex as Yes. The duo already had a song called “We Can Fly From Here,” which they thought would be suitable for Yes. A demo of the song was recorded in May 1980 with Squire’s participation. To their surprise, the latter suggested they join Yes as full-time members. They accepted the invitation and appeared on the Drama album, which was released in August 1980. The record displayed a heavier, harder sound than the material Yes recorded with Anderson in 1979, opening with the lengthy hard rocker “Machine Messiah”. The album peaked at number 2 in the UK and number 18 in the US. Their 1980 tour of North America and the UK received a mixed reaction from audiences. They were well received in the United States, and were awarded with a commemorative certificate after they performed a record 16 consecutive sold out concerts at Madison Square Garden since 1974.

    After the Drama tour, Yes reconvened in England to decide the band’s next step. They dismissed Lane as a manager, and Horn chose to pursue a career in music production. White and Squire were next to depart, leaving Downes and Howe as the sole members. They opted not to continue with the group, and went their separate ways in December 1980. A live compilation album of performances from 1976 to 1978, mixed in mid-1979 and originally intended for release in late 1979, was released as Yesshows that peaked at number 22 in the UK, and number 43 in the US.

    An announcement came from the group’s management in March 1981 confirming that Yes no longer existed. Downes and Howe reunited to form Asia with former King Crimson bassist and vocalist John Wetton, and drummer Carl Palmer from Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. Squire and White continued to work together, initially recording sessions with Jimmy Page for a proposed band called XYZ (short for “ex-Yes-and-Zeppelin”) in the spring of 1981. Page’s former bandmate Robert Plant was also to be involved as the vocalist but he lost enthusiasm, citing his ongoing grieving for recently deceased Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham. The group produced a few demo tracks, elements of which would appear in Page’s band The Firm and on future Yes tracks “Mind Drive” and “Can You Imagine?”. In late 1981, Squire and White released “Run With the Fox”, a Christmas single with Squire on vocals and with lyrics by Peter Sinfield, which received radio airplay through the 1980s and early 1990s during the Christmas periods. A second Yes compilation album, Classic Yes, was released in November 1981.

    Rebirth and successful change of sound (1982–1988) In 1982, Squire and White teamed up with South African rock guitarist and singer Trevor Rabin in a new band called Cinema. Rabin had initially made his name with the band Rabbitt, subsequently releasing three solo albums, working as a record producer and even briefly playing in an early version of Asia. Squire also recruited another former Yes musician, Tony Kaye, whose approach to keyboards suited the new group. Despite the presence of three Yes musicians, Cinema was not originally intended to be a continuation of Yes.

    Cinema subsequently entered the studio to record an album. Although Rabin and Squire initially shared lead vocals, Trevor Horn was brought into the project as a potential singer, but subsequently changed roles to become the band’s producer. Horn polished the band’s developing songs with modern studio effects and digital sampling using the Fairlight CMI and also played a prominent role in vocal arrangement (including contributing to the backing vocals). However, his clashes with Tony Kaye (complicated by the fact that Rabin was playing most of the keyboards during the recording sessions) led to Kaye’s departure after around six months of rehearsing.

    Meanwhile, Jon Anderson had released two solo albums since leaving Yes and had also achieved success with the Jon and Vangelis project. Having encountered Anderson at a Los Angeles party, Squire played him the Cinema demo tracks and subsequently invited him to become the band’s lead singer. Anderson joined the project during the last few weeks of the sessions, having comparatively little creative input beyond adding his lead vocals and re-writing some lyrics.

    At the suggestion of record company executives, Cinema then changed their name to Yes. Rabin initially objected to this, as he now found that he had inadvertently joined a reunited band with a history and expectations, rather than help launch a new group. However, the presence of four former Yes members in the band (three of them founding members, including the distinctive lead singer) suggested that the name change was sound commercial strategy. The new album marked a radical change in style as the revived Yes had adopted a pop rock sound that showed little of their progressive roots. This incarnation of the band has sometimes been informally referred to as “Yes-West”, reflecting the band’s new base in Los Angeles rather than London.

    Yes released their comeback album 90125 (named after its catalogue serial number on Atco Records) in November 1983. It became their biggest-selling album, selling over 6 million copies, and introduced the band to younger fans. “Owner of a Lonely Heart” topped the Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart for four weeks, and went on to reach the number one spot on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, the first and only single from Yes to do so, for two weeks in January 1984. Kaye’s short-term replacement on keyboards, Eddie Jobson, appeared briefly in the original video but was edited out as much as possible once Kaye had been persuaded to return to the band.

    i ended this at 1984. ok? hope this helps.

    By darth on Aug 27, 2013

  35. darth-shut the fuck up!!!!

    By Constructive Criticism and Friendly Advice on Aug 27, 2013

  36. wow…now you are reprinting entire wiki pages..between wiki and begging for trivia help on youtube you must be very busy darth dingle.

    By smilin` jack duckfeather on Aug 27, 2013

  37. reprinting to help speds such as yourself.Call it a public service foolish twit…

    By smilin' jack duckweather's smarter brother on Aug 28, 2013

  38. thor - it should be noted btw that the classic line up didnt happen immediately after the buggles left yes in early 81. this took a couple of years to happen. ill paste some portion from the much loved wikipedia below for u -

    In October 1979, the band convened in Paris with producer Roy Thomas Baker. Their diverse approach was now succumbing to division, as Anderson and Wakeman favoured the more fantastical and delicate approach while the rest preferred a heavier rock sound. Howe, Squire and White liked none of the music Anderson was offering at the time as it was too lightweight and lacking in the heaviness that they were generating in their own writing sessions. The Paris sessions abruptly ended in December after White broke his foot while rollerskating. When the band, minus Wakeman (who had only committed to recording keyboard overdubs once new material would be ready to record) reconvened in February to resume work on the project, their growing musical differences, combined with internal dissension, obstructed progress. Journalist Chris Welch, after attending a rehearsal, noted that Anderson “was singing without his usual conviction and seemed disinclined to talk”. By late March, Howe, Squire and White had begun demoing material as an instrumental trio, increasingly uncertain about Anderson’s future involvement. Eventually, neither he nor Wakeman would participate in the finished album.

    Commercial failure and band split (1980–1981)Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn as The Buggles.In 1980, pop duo The Buggles that was formed of keyboardist Geoffrey Downes and singer Trevor Horn acquired Brian Lane as a manager. The pair had a worldwide hit with the single “Video Killed the Radio Star”, and were working in the same rehearsal complex as Yes. The duo already had a song called “We Can Fly From Here,” which they thought would be suitable for Yes. A demo of the song was recorded in May 1980 with Squire’s participation. To their surprise, the latter suggested they join Yes as full-time members. They accepted the invitation and appeared on the Drama album, which was released in August 1980. The record displayed a heavier, harder sound than the material Yes recorded with Anderson in 1979, opening with the lengthy hard rocker “Machine Messiah”. The album peaked at number 2 in the UK and number 18 in the US. Their 1980 tour of North America and the UK received a mixed reaction from audiences. They were well received in the United States, and were awarded with a commemorative certificate after they performed a record 16 consecutive sold out concerts at Madison Square Garden since 1974.

    After the Drama tour, Yes reconvened in England to decide the band’s next step. They dismissed Lane as a manager, and Horn chose to pursue a career in music production. White and Squire were next to depart, leaving Downes and Howe as the sole members. They opted not to continue with the group, and went their separate ways in December 1980. A live compilation album of performances from 1976 to 1978, mixed in mid-1979 and originally intended for release in late 1979, was released as Yesshows that peaked at number 22 in the UK, and number 43 in the US.

    An announcement came from the group’s management in March 1981 confirming that Yes no longer existed. Downes and Howe reunited to form Asia with former King Crimson bassist and vocalist John Wetton, and drummer Carl Palmer from Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. Squire and White continued to work together, initially recording sessions with Jimmy Page for a proposed band called XYZ (short for “ex-Yes-and-Zeppelin”) in the spring of 1981. Page’s former bandmate Robert Plant was also to be involved as the vocalist but he lost enthusiasm, citing his ongoing grieving for recently deceased Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham. The group produced a few demo tracks, elements of which would appear in Page’s band The Firm and on future Yes tracks “Mind Drive” and “Can You Imagine?”. In late 1981, Squire and White released “Run With the Fox”, a Christmas single with Squire on vocals and with lyrics by Peter Sinfield, which received radio airplay through the 1980s and early 1990s during the Christmas periods. A second Yes compilation album, Classic Yes, was released in November 1981.

    Rebirth and successful change of sound (1982–1988) In 1982, Squire and White teamed up with South African rock guitarist and singer Trevor Rabin in a new band called Cinema. Rabin had initially made his name with the band Rabbitt, subsequently releasing three solo albums, working as a record producer and even briefly playing in an early version of Asia. Squire also recruited another former Yes musician, Tony Kaye, whose approach to keyboards suited the new group. Despite the presence of three Yes musicians, Cinema was not originally intended to be a continuation of Yes.

    Cinema subsequently entered the studio to record an album. Although Rabin and Squire initially shared lead vocals, Trevor Horn was brought into the project as a potential singer, but subsequently changed roles to become the band’s producer. Horn polished the band’s developing songs with modern studio effects and digital sampling using the Fairlight CMI and also played a prominent role in vocal arrangement (including contributing to the backing vocals). However, his clashes with Tony Kaye (complicated by the fact that Rabin was playing most of the keyboards during the recording sessions) led to Kaye’s departure after around six months of rehearsing.

    Meanwhile, Jon Anderson had released two solo albums since leaving Yes and had also achieved success with the Jon and Vangelis project. Having encountered Anderson at a Los Angeles party, Squire played him the Cinema demo tracks and subsequently invited him to become the band’s lead singer. Anderson joined the project during the last few weeks of the sessions, having comparatively little creative input beyond adding his lead vocals and re-writing some lyrics.

    At the suggestion of record company executives, Cinema then changed their name to Yes. Rabin initially objected to this, as he now found that he had inadvertently joined a reunited band with a history and expectations, rather than help launch a new group. However, the presence of four former Yes members in the band (three of them founding members, including the distinctive lead singer) suggested that the name change was sound commercial strategy. The new album marked a radical change in style as the revived Yes had adopted a pop rock sound that showed little of their progressive roots. This incarnation of the band has sometimes been informally referred to as “Yes-West”, reflecting the band’s new base in Los Angeles rather than London.

    Yes released their comeback album 90125 (named after its catalogue serial number on Atco Records) in November 1983. It became their biggest-selling album, selling over 6 million copies, and introduced the band to younger fans. “Owner of a Lonely Heart” topped the Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart for four weeks, and went on to reach the number one spot on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, the first and only single from Yes to do so, for two weeks in January 1984. Kaye’s short-term replacement on keyboards, Eddie Jobson, appeared briefly in the original video but was edited out as much as possible once Kaye had been persuaded to return to the band.

    i ended this at 1984. ok? hope this helps.

    love from darth dingle on Aug 27, 2013

    By darth dingle on Aug 28, 2013

  39. darth, youre the only one who knew enough to help thor. youre the best man here!

    By Len Hoffman on Aug 28, 2013

  40. ty len. no one else thought enough to answer him. i figured i might as well.
    and its not a full article its only the years in question. late 79 thru 84. thats what he asked about. the wiki page is much longer. i dont understand the point in pasting my entire post tho. its right there already.

    By darth on Aug 28, 2013

  41. “i havent been able to find proof on my own. can u offer help? please? please hurry”.

    darth begging for help on youtube because he is in over his head and the storyt he fabricated couldn`t be found on his beloved wiki.
    right darth?

    By darth begs for help on Aug 28, 2013

  42. “i havent been able to find proof on my own. can u offer help? please? please hurry”.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/darthkards

    By darth begs for help on Aug 28, 2013

  43. i made a foolish statement that I can`t back up…can anyone verify my foolish statement ? please hurry…
    http://www.youtube.com/user/darthkards

    By darth begs for help on Aug 28, 2013

  44. Wow–look at darth’s other comments there on youtube: insult after insult. I think he might actually behave even worse there than he does here!

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 28, 2013

  45. Wow–look at darth’s other comments there on youtube: insult after insult. I think he might actually behave even worse there than he does here!

    you can probably imagine how few friends he has left. You can`t spend your entire life calling everyone out all the time, its give and take, sometimes whther or not you are right or wrong a little humility goes a very long way.
    I get the disticnt feeling from reading darths posts over the years that he was once very outwardly active and it has come to a screeching halt somehow. shut-in perhaps, agoaphobic perhaps..it seems there is something like this because for him to have all the recorded music he claims to have he must spend his entire day/night in front of the computer. a sad existence, wouldn`t hurt to try and get along once in a while instead of constantly cussing people out.

    By apolitical phturd on Aug 28, 2013

  46. i dont curse ppl out who dont initiate crap my way first. look carefully next time or if possible go back and look at what u seem to be selective in reading. u dont seem to want to see the full picture. but then why am i not surprised?
    all that u assume about me is false. the only difference between what once was and what is now is that i no longer live in nyc. i no longer run around taking pics because it was a nyc thing. that ended in late 95. im not a shut in or agoraphobic. but now that im in a place where what i did cant be done anymore i do other things. im also much older now than i was when i did what i once did. i ended that part of my life at 35 yrs of age. im now 53. i didnt start dl’ing music til i got where i am now. didnt start burning til may 06. i dont spend all day and nite in front of my computer but i did do torrents for a while and they can work while u arent at the computer. i havent done these in yrs. who are u to judge anyones existence? if i enjoy what i do or have done and own in my collection or how i obtained it then how can u decide that its a sad existence? who are u to say this about someone elses life? do u even realize what u are doing/saying?
    its not me here that should have to try to get along once in a while. im not the problem. i dont care that u think i am. that u think i am is a bigger problem than anything i am doing or have done. i dont sit here cussing or even cursing anyone out. try to read what is going on a bit more carefully. stop making a fool of yourself.

    By darth on Aug 28, 2013

  47. darth: nobody believes your garbage. Do us all, particularly yourself, a favor and shut the fuck up.

    By Constructive Criticism and Friendly Advice on Aug 28, 2013

  48. i dont curse ppl out who dont initiate crap my way first.
    bullshit ,proof is all over this blog.

    By apolitical phturd on Aug 28, 2013

  49. darth: nobody believes your garbage. Do us all, particularly yourself, a favor and shut the fuck up.

    Do us all a favor and stay out of this…oh, and shut the fuck up.

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 29, 2013

  50. i made a foolish statement that I can`t back up…can anyone verify my foolish statement ? please hurry…
    http://www.youtube.com/user/darthkards

    when are you going to address this darth ?

    By apolitical phturd on Aug 29, 2013

  51. when are you going to leave this board turd?

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 29, 2013

  52. if darth left this board, there would be no reason for half of you to come to this board anymore…obviously you don’t come for the music, it’s all about finding something that darth typed that you don’t agree with.

    By billyjojimbob on Aug 29, 2013

  53. The above “turd” comment was not by me, meaning darth was probably using my handle.

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 29, 2013

  54. wait a minute….that was me….sorry (cringe)

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 29, 2013

  55. i dont use other peoples handles. ever.

    i never typed anywhere that i made a foolish statement. theres nothing to address. i asked for help in proving something that i wasnt able to prove. i know its a fact but that doesnt mean what i said was foolish nor that i said it was foolish. u are misquoting me.

    i dont care if u believe the things i say and i dont know how u could know if anyone else much less everyone else as u claim believes the things i type on here. i dont think u can possible know this. i have no plans on leaving this site and posting messages here. what u dont wish to read.. u have the option not to.

    before u claim that something i said is bullshit.. namely that i dont curse people out that dont throw crap my way first.. do the research. dont just blindly say its bullshit. look at the facts. find a particular series of postings where what u say happened and then look carefully at what i am responding to. this isnt really that difficult. even for u.
    when u say theres proof all over this blog.. yes thats true.. proof of what im saying.. not what u are saying.

    billyjo - ty. nail on head.

    By darth on Aug 29, 2013

  56. meant to say ‘no longer posting messages here’
    and
    meant to say ‘how u could know if anyone else much less everyone else.. disbelieves the things i type on here’.
    thanks

    By darth on Aug 29, 2013

  57. billyjojimbob- if darth left bigO, it would be a much more pleasant place. Just scroll up to JV’s comment near the beginning for a perfect example of his behavior. JV said he taped the concert from a radio broadcast, darth tells him he’s wrong. Other people provided THREE links to show that JV was right, darth still insists they’re all wrong.

    He’s made several huge, embarrassing mistakes over the last two months, but he still wants to be seen as the ultimate expert. What kind of an idiot copies and pastes 2000 words from a Wikipedia article when providing a simple link would have been sufficient? He’s alienated almost everyone here with his behavior, including several of his friends. I have no sympathy for him.

    By Dingus on Aug 29, 2013

  58. JV said he taped the concert from a radio broadcast, darth tells him he’s wrong. Other people provided THREE links to show that JV was right, darth still insists they’re all wrong.

    darth is never wrong, once you get used to that everything falls in line

    By solomon says on Aug 29, 2013

  59. Darth , this link is for you.You love your wiki so you should really enjoy this.
    your welcome.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Admitting_you%27re_wrong

    By dropkick sarge on Aug 29, 2013

  60. as i said each of the links was probably based on the other. its also likely that the people posting said links were created names specifically for that day. i noticed it was only 2 people providing 2 links. one was danc whose name ive seen before. the other was a moron making a name just to be an idiot. the 2nd and final link (there was no 3rd) likely based its info on the first. my information is accurate. just because people claim the opposite doesnt make their information any more true than mine. his memory of recording the concert on the radio doesnt mean its accurate. when u dont like my memories why is his better? its 33 yrs ago!!! im not basing this purely on memory. i am a massive yes fan. i was a huge yes fan since the early 70s. i followed the band around the country and collected everything on them. i too recorded the same show he did but it wasnt the garden. it was the spectrum in phila. not the garden.
    there were many 1000s of people swearing that the world was flat and people would fall off the edge but columbus told them otherwise. it doesnt matter how many people claim someone is wrong and how many ppl back the one who is right. he wont be wrong just because there are less of him. your logic of 3 vs 1 doesnt hold up. its not a democratic vote here on which facts u prefer. the fact is.. the garden was not brdcst. i dont care if u like it or not. i dont care what info u find or what sources u quote. i am 100% positive on this information.

    i made a mistake or two and i admitted them. im not embarrassed by them. i dont know why u think i am or should be. if mistakes embarrass u thats your problem not mine. forgetting that a song on an album is life vs studio isnt very embarrassing to me.
    i also never said i wanted to be seen as the ultimate expert. youre putting words into my mouth. i never would expect anyone to think this of me. there are many many people whose knowledge i look up to and wish i had. i grew up around people who seem to have encyclopedic memories when it came to stuff that happened in the late 50s thru the early 70s and i could just sit there in awe listening to them. the first name that comes to mind is bruce eder. everyone should know that name. he was a friend of mine in nyc in the late 70s thru the entire 80s and early 90s. he helped me get my first ever published photo in fact - graham nash on stage at the bottom line as part of the hollies reunion in 83. half a page in the aquarian weekly.. a small newspaper on long island. i nearly didnt get any shots of that event but thankfully graham himself told me that the show at radio city had been canceled and moved to the bottom line. i was the in house photographer at tower records down the street and was talking to him before the event started and he let me know. ive known graham since 1980.
    but i digress…
    i copied and pasted the section from wikipedia that dealt with the subject that answered the question. the entire article wouldnt have done that. by the same token thor could have also gone to wikipedia and read the article himself. thats not the point. it was far easier to copy the specific details and only those details for him. i started at the point in question and ended at the end of the point in question. why is this a problem for u? what u should have a problem with is the idiot who copied what i did immediately afterwards. altho im betting that was u.
    i didnt alienate anyone worthwhile. my behavior is fine. i have done nothing wrong. when u treat people badly what do u expect back? kisses and hugs? what the hell is wrong with u? who are u trying to convince here? do u really believe this bullshit??
    i have lost no friends and ill tell u why. real friends are not lost so easily. if they were lost.. then how worthwhile could they have been. i maintain i have several friends on here. i communicate with several of them via email. some often some less often. some are as close as 2 friends can be without meeting. if i was in person with these people we’d be hanging out and drinking and spending time with one another. theyve told me this and i feel it as well. without this site i wouldnt have ever met these people.
    im grateful for this site for that if nothing more. the music is 2ndary. nothing u say or do on here will ever detract from that or ruin that for me. i know u have tried and will continue to try even tho u have repeatedly claimed u will stop. everyone here has seen u for what u are. u are a liar. nothing is worse. i would never ever be your friend. nor any of your ilk like the idiots cheering u on and jumping on the bandwagon.
    no one is asking for nor wants / needs your sympathy. why would i? look at what u are and what u do. does it make sense that i would need sympathy from u??? are u kidding?

    By darth on Aug 29, 2013

  61. the other was a moron making a name just to be an idiot.

    there you go casting the first stone which you claim you do not do.

    By dropkick sarge on Aug 29, 2013

  62. “altho im betting that was u.”

    Wrong again darth. Please stop making me repeat myself.

    Got any updates yet on Peaches en Regalia from your YouTube buddies? You were “100% positive” on that too.

    By Dingus on Aug 30, 2013

  63. whoa there boy.
    no one cares about yer shit.
    you must have sat up all night typing that novel.

    By donkey breath darth on Aug 30, 2013

  64. good post darth.maybe everyone here is just jealous…

    By bootlick sarge on Aug 30, 2013

  65. bootlick must be the one friend darth talks about wanting to hang out and drink with.

    By donkey breath darth on Aug 30, 2013

  66. “do u really believe this bullshit??”

    No. None of it.

    By Everyone Else On bigO on Aug 30, 2013

  67. darth says he doesn’t care what any of the “idiots” here thinks, and yet takes the time to write these ridiculously long responses. It’d be easier to get his supposed photos from his days as a big time rock photographer out of “storage,” or at least find links to them (since, surely, some of them have been scanned onto the web by now) and prove us all wrong. If they actually existed, that is.

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 30, 2013

  68. bootlick must be the one friend darth talks about wanting to hang out and drink with.

    and you obviously have none,lol

    By donkey breath bootlick on Aug 30, 2013

  69. if theyre in storage how could they be scanned? that doesnt make sense. i didnt say i was a big time photographer. i just took pics in the 80s and 90s. no big time. youre putting your own twist on things. how would there be links to my pics? that doesnt even make sense. i dont have to prove any of u wrong. when my pics are on a site ill be selling them. not til then.

    as for typing what i typed above.. it only took a few mins. i guess i type fast.

    btw.. im still positive on the peaches en regalia.

    no i dont cast the first stone ever. i didnt do that this time and i never do that. yes i do make that claim and i stand by that claim.

    By darth on Aug 30, 2013

  70. darth, this is all so obvious, it feels ludicrous to write it: you claim you were an official photographer for bands. Did they hire you so you could keep all the photos for yourself? Of course not. That would be idiotic. Either they hired you so that they could use the photos for publicity purposes, in which case they’d be widely available for anybody who wanted to scan them, or you were never anybody’s official photographer and you’re the lying sack of shit everybody here has already figured out that you are. You claim your photos were in magazines. Magazine photos can be scanned. When their subjects are rock stars, they generally are scanned, and they’re on the internet right now. If they’re not, again, you’re obviously the lying sack of shit we all know you are. Clearly, you think we’re all idiots, as you’ve said, while, even more clearly, the idiot is you for thinking anybody would believe your crap stories.

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 30, 2013

  71. Cheers Big O your the man

    By Keith W on Aug 30, 2013

  72. darth was never hired as the official photographer for bands. If he had been, the photos would have been regularly published, and he would have made a good living from his work. If he actually toured with bands, he was a hanger-on, a fanboy who never rode in the tour bus or plane. If he was paid for anything, he was a roadie and they let him bring his camera. Tours with various well-known bands, two weeks in the studio with the Rolling Stones, working at NBC, and he has nothing to show for it? If any prints were ever made, he would have the lab make an extra print for himself. Oh right, they’re “in storage”…

    “Official photographer at Tower Records” means he talked his way into being allowed to photograph the stars in exchange for giving the store a few prints. It’s an unpaid position.

    Why should darth bother to scan negatives and prints when he can spend his time more productively- downloading music he’ll never listen to, movies and TV shows he’ll never watch, and insulting people on YouTube?

    Having all those great photographs sit in storage and not generate income must be awfully frustrating. Maybe that’s the source of his anger- not being about to control his obsession with hoarding and direct his energy to his archives.

    By Dingus on Aug 30, 2013

  73. i dont recall claiming i was the official photographer for anyone. i do however own most of the photos that i ever took yes. there are some exceptions that i didnt keep.
    most photographers get to keep their work. bands and their management dont take possession of the photos. photographers dont give up their negs or slides. some of what u think is wrong here. i am not sure where u got this information. if the material is published and u had access to it u dont have the ability or right to scan my work. u also wouldnt know which pics were mine. there are billions and billions of photos out there of many many 1000s of bands and other celebs. i didnt just shoot rock stars. i shot tv and movie people too. i shy’d away from sports people and politicians and society type celebs but every so often i would delve a little just cuz it was easy or i knew who they were and got caught up in the moment and figured why not. like jackie onassis etc.
    not all of my photos were used when i did sell them. but i didnt always work for bands. and most of my stuff was done as a hobby for myself and when i could i would sell my stuff to either fans or to newspapers or magazines privately. i have been on the front page of the new york daily news. ive been in time magazine and esquire and as i mentioned earlier aquarlian weekly. rock & folk - i think thats a european mag. i used to keep a list of all the different publications where ive been published. but since i havent done any photograhy since 96 and its no longer a part of my world it isnt at the forefront of my mind right now. id have to try to remember the different places ive been published. i know its a bunch of places. a few books too. the bowie concert tapes book has one of my photos in it. full page in fact. a few rock programs and a couple of albums have my work on them.
    i dont know why u are so worried about my work or what i did for 17 years tho. is it jealousy? or what? seems kinda strange. i sure am not that concerned about what u did or do with your life that i would worry as much about it as u are about me and mine. think about this.
    i didnt say that pics in magazines couldnt be scanned. what is your point? if u want to find some magazines and scan those pics feel free. there are many millions of those out there. do u have a scanner? do u have magazines? do u have nothing better to do with your time than run around buying up magazines and scan them into your computer? do u understand the difference between a photograph and a printed picture in a magazine? maybe u dont. who knows?

    as for being an idiot.. well.. im not sure that youre not one and when u say some of the things u say.. u only cement the likelihood that u might be. i dont call everyone on here idiots. i never did that. some of the people on here arent idiots. they know who they are. then again its funny that u personally take offense when i say idiot. lol.
    perhaps u know that im talking about u. funny shit.
    repeatedly u seem to think that i am concerned with what u believe. if u dont believe things i have brought up that is your right. i have not lied about anything i have said in here. i have discussed my life and what i did with it.. mostly from 1980-95 insofar as taking pics and collecting music. i also have offered up a little about my world from 97-02 and 05-now insofar as collecting music again.
    what u choose to believe has nothing to do with me. thats all on u. i cant be held responsible for that part. u have the right to believe as u wish. seriously. its not my job to prove anything to u. if i did that then the word belief goes out the window. just like when it comes to religion. if god proved himself to u or anyone out there it wouldnt be up to belief any longer would it? it would be fact. and once its a fact and its been proven u cant just choose to believe or not believe in it. if u didnt believe in facts that would make u insane wouldnt it? either that or an idiot. hmmmm. wait.
    i took pics. i havent proven this to u. not that i need to necessarily but it is a fact still. u choose not to believe it. u wouldnt believe it til it has been proven by which time it would no longer be a belief obviously. u think its acceptable to call people liars hoping that this will force them into proving their side somehow. even tho im unable to do this. my reasons dont matter for why i cant offer u proof of my work but lets say i could for a moment. why do i need to? just to shut u up? even if i could show u my photos.. u would likely only say theyre not mine or i found pics that i didnt take and im taking credit for them etc. someone would claim i was weak and i caved to pressure. etc etc.
    i know what i did for 17 years. i dont need your validation and belief that i did it. it just isnt that big of a deal to me. i talk about it because it is part of my past. it is my life. if u were a friend or genuine person that i felt was genuinely interested in my pics and i had the ability at this point in scanning my pics i would do this. im sure at some point i will be able to get ahold of my pics and make a site and put some of my shots on ebay etc.
    i may even mention that i have one up for sale. who knows. but with the way u idiots stalk me.. why would i do that? i post a message on youtube and look at the shit i get. id have to be crazy to want to try to prove anything to any of u or share anything with any of u. u want something from someone and u treat people like that? are u out of your mind?? u cant run around calling people lying sacks of shit and expect them to rush to show u anything they did.
    and then.. then of all things u dont understand why i call u idiots? really????!?!?!?!?

    By darth on Aug 30, 2013

  74. i have been on the front page of the new york daily news. ive been in time magazine and esquire

    hooo boy the bs never stops.

    By disillusioned much on Aug 30, 2013

  75. “i have been on the front page of the new york daily news.”

    in handcuffs.

    By barth on Aug 30, 2013

  76. darth, you prove all of my points with your dancing around them. Obviously, you’re a liar. Otherwise, it would be all too easy, as I’ve pointed out, to offer evidence for your claims. Instead, you just blather on and on, pretending you don’t care what anybody thinks.

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 30, 2013

  77. darth, you prove all of my points with your dancing around them. Obviously, you’re a liar. Otherwise, it would be all too easy, as I’ve pointed out, to offer evidence for your claims. Instead, you just blather on and on, pretending you don’t care what anybody thinks.

    By Innocent Bystander on Aug 30, 2013

  78. Let’s do it, people. It won’t be easy, but we can do it. Good one, barth.

    By IGNORE DARTH on Aug 30, 2013

  79. ever tried to ignore an ingrown hair on yer arse?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

    By disillusioned much on Aug 30, 2013

  80. I said it won’t be easy. It’s the same discussions/arguments every time, and it’s been going on far too long now. Ignore him. barth, I’m still laughing!

    By IGNORE DARTH on Aug 30, 2013

  81. i post a message on youtube and look at the shit i get

    because you come here pretending to know everything and you had to go there and beg for someone to back up your ridiculous claim. you are an idiot troll.

    By mange merde on Aug 30, 2013

  82. i dont pretend to know everything. u act like that. i never do that. thats all in your head. dont blame me for that. i tell u something and u decide u dont like that info. thats not my problem. u dont have to accept it. but that wont make the info wrong. going out of your way to prove it wrong isnt my problem either. i didnt beg anyone to back up anything. i asked for help since i couldnt find the proof. it isnt a ridiculous claim. its factual. not being able to find proof of it doesnt detract from its validity.
    my point in not wishing to give more of myself to u idiots when asked to.. is that if i did.. look at the crap that flows out of u asses when i do!!
    how dont u understand this????

    By darth on Aug 31, 2013

  83. Returning to my last post on this thread (which now seems about 40 years ago):

    darth — thank you for answering my question.

    All — I’ll try to detoxify the discussion and go back to what we were originally talking about. This show reminds me of a few things: (1) Horn had to have been chosen as a matter of convenience — he is very good behind the board but had little experience singing Yes’s type of music in front of arena audiences — inexperienced singers often suffer from tight vocal cords due to nerves, and that sounds like what happened here; (2) the Drama period is best viewed a necessary bridge to the big payoff with Horn, namely “Owner” and the 90125 album — the latter doesn’t happen without the former, and, creative issues aside, it saved Yes’s career; and (3) Drama did move the band in a harder-edged, song-oriented direction, which was where they needed to go — the day of 25 minute songs with inscrutable lyrics about unicorns had passed.

    By thor on Aug 31, 2013

  84. “not being able to find proof of it doesnt detract from its validity.”

    only to someone who cant find any proof to validate his mistake. cuff him boys.

    By barth on Aug 31, 2013

  85. I don`t think i have ever seen such refried confusion as one of darth`s “pretzel logic”posts.
    unbelievable how deluded he is or how much fun he`s having being an idiot, hard to tell.

    By dropkick sarge on Aug 31, 2013

  86. I agree thor, but Talk and Keystudio reverted back to the longer songs about unicorns, reincarnation…etc

    By billyjojimbob on Aug 31, 2013

  87. I made the front page of my local newspaper, bet you guys on here won’t believe me but I really did. My escort caught on fire at the Mcdonalds drive thru.

    By blue moon on Aug 31, 2013

  88. Blue Moon-
    I made the front page of my local newspaper, bet you guys on here won’t believe me but I really did. So did I. Honda slid into a stone wall at 50 mph after they sanded a blind curve in the mountains. So - what the HECK does that have anything to do with this blog????

    By 5yrsnojob on Aug 31, 2013

  89. yo 5yrs- at least u werent in handcuffs like darth was.

    By barth on Aug 31, 2013

  90. nothing really, just seemed like someone else was bragging about making the front page but mine wasn’t music related…well, I did lose some tapes in the fire.

    By blue moon on Aug 31, 2013

  91. Billyjo –

    Right, I think was Jon reasserting himself after they hit the wall with Big Generator (he retired the wasted lead singer trophy on that tour - the YouTube videos are a riot). Fans seem to think Talk is one of their worst (though not as bad as Open Your Eyes) and are in the middle on Keys. I think they forgot that Close to the Edge succeeded because of melody, not song length.

    By thor on Aug 31, 2013

  92. me, i just never “got” prog rock or whatever you want to call it.Steve Howe was /is a great player but my tastes always leaned toward soulful playing . It`s funny, over the years I`ve always admired Steve Cropper[ listen to his fabulous rhythm work on otis` cigarettes and coffee] jeff beck ,[a guitar god non pareil and now sonny landreth just absolutely blows me away..I could never get any feel for bands like ELP, or Yes , Gentle Giant, Genesis, things like, so…tell me a few good tunes that maybe don`t lean to the mythical so much and maybe touch your soul a little..I`ll try again.

    By sluggo on Aug 31, 2013

  93. When I posted, there were 8 comments. I come back from vacation and there are over 90! Yes always generates comments no matter what forum. I thank the other commenters for backing me up. I was a huge Yes fan in 1980, and knew about the broadcast for weeks—on Philly’s WYSP, I believe. I taped the show from MSG because I knew I would see them on Sept. 12, 1980 at the Spectrum. Why am I 100% sure? Because I write this as I look at my old, worn out “Maxell UD” tape that 33 years ago I scrawled on it “Recorded from Mad. Sq. Garden Sept. 6, 1980,” And my Spectrum ticket for $9.50 dated Fri Sep 12, 1980. I know I am right, but don’t care that much—just enough to comment one final time.

    By JV on Sep 2, 2013

  94. i think that darth has finally left the building.

    By billyjojimblob on Sep 3, 2013

  95. it was brdcst in phila on wmmr fm. and there are many copies of that tape in circulation. just like there are copies of the wnew fm one also in circulation. and they all came from the spectrum. u had tickets to the 2nd spectrum show a month later in october. u recorded the first spectrum show off the radio which was the only show at that point that had been brdcst. they wouldnt brdcst a show that early on in the tour anyway. not that there would be that much of a chance that theyd screw up really but they were still working out the kinks in the performance and even if u just use a little common sense it makes much more sense that theyd wait a little while before committing a show to millions via fm.
    im sorry that u wrote the wrong info on your tape. but i am promising u that the show u have is the first spectrum show and u saw the 2nd show a month later.
    im done with this topic now.

    By darth on Sep 3, 2013

  96. so his ticket says sept.12, but you say he went in October. If you click on your favorite site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yes_concert_tours it will show you that he is correct darth.

    By blue moon on Sep 3, 2013

  97. “im done with this topic now.”

    …he said after being proven wrong by three different sources.

    By Dingus on Sep 3, 2013

  98. Darth needs an asshole transplant. However, despite advanced techniques in tissue-type matching, doctors can’t find one which will accept his larynx.

    By STOP PRESS on Sep 3, 2013

  99. stop press…hilarious!

    By billyjojimblob on Sep 3, 2013

  100. blue.. no if look at the site u will see that i am correct. he is lying. he did not record the show before he went if he went to the first spectrum show. either way the show he has on tape is from the spectrum show. period.
    i wasnt proven wrong. and it was 2 sources as i pointed out. and very likely one was based on the other.

    By darth on Sep 3, 2013

  101. 100

    By sking on Sep 4, 2013

  102. that doesn’t make any sense darth, his ticket says sept.12th which is the first spectrum show..how could he record it from home and be at the concert at the same time? He says he recorded it sept.6th and it was at MSG, not the spectrum.

    By blue moon on Sep 4, 2013

  103. darth, I’m willing to back you up, but I’m afraid I can’t on this one. There’s just too much evidence to the contrary.

    By Len Hoffman on Sep 4, 2013

  104. that doesn’t make any sense darth

    you can`t use the words sense and darth in the same sentence

    By billyjojimblob on Sep 4, 2013

  105. I know for a fact that the MSG show was broadcast because my sister’s brother’s uncle’s cousin’s girlfriend’s boyfriend was the janitor and he smoked weed with the bass player who moonlighted as the sound guy for somebody who said they were the one that broadcast it.
    That or “I read it on the internet so it has to be true”

    By dar1h on Sep 4, 2013

  106. I know for a fact our hero knows nothing

    By dar1h on Sep 4, 2013

  107. darth–I could not help but laugh most of the day when I read your absurd, convoluted “common sense” ideas of how I taped the wrong show and saw the wrong concert. But in a later comment you called me a liar and I am not laughing now. Where the hell do you get off calling me a liar? My original comment was a simple FYI to you and any Yes fans that there indeed was a show broadcast on the radio. You said I was wrong. A few commenters gave you links as proof. You discounted them. Well, here is yet another one: yesholland.com. Click on the Drama tour and you’ll see the September 6th show is an FM recording. Now instead of trying to prove me wrong, prove to me you’re right. Prove to me and all the commenters that these links are inaccurate. Go ahead. I’ll wait.
    You were right about one thing–Yes did play two shows in Philly, one in September and one in October. I only saw the one in September and still have the ticket stub to prove it. The WMMR/WNEW show could be the famous 1976 Roosevelt stadium show, which I have and which the DJs mention the call letters.
    I also listened to my tape, and the announcer says, “Now, we join Yes live in concert from Madison Square Garden.” Enough for you now?
    Finally, I would be willing to scan my ticket and cassette tape and send to you if you would provide an email address. I would only do this if you promised to then apologize to me on this forum for calling me a liar. I doubt you’ll do it; I don’t think you have enough class.

    By JV on Sep 4, 2013

  108. jv you are wasting your time thinking you can reason with the troll.

    By dropkick sarge on Sep 4, 2013

  109. JV, you’ve more than proven your point. The last thing you would ever want is for that disoriented hobgoblin to have your email or home address.

    By Dingus on Sep 4, 2013

  110. Thanks, dingus. Disoriented hobgoblin! ROFLMAO!

    By JV on Sep 4, 2013

  111. I checked out both sources.Sorry.I stand corrected

    By Dingus on Sep 4, 2013

  112. You’re very welcome, JV. Be sure to work on your punctuation tomorrow, Dingus. Good night.

    By Dingus on Sep 4, 2013

  113. STOP PRESS

    DARTH IS EVEN BIGGER ASS THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT

    Over the last few days, Darth The Ass has proved that he is even more of an ass than was first suspected.

    This raises the question;
    “Just how big of an ass can he become?”

    Physicists at MIT are concerned that if he grows to sufficient size, it will induce a gravitational collapse.
    Depending on the accumulated mass at the point of this collapse, he might, at the very least, become a neutron ass, also called a pulsass. It is believed that this will result in a high-pitched farting noise every 5 milliseconds, as he spins pointlessly about his own axis due to the greatly increased angular velocity associated with the collapse. Of course, at this frequency of rotation, it will be perceived by the human ear as a constant whine, so nobody will notice.

    If, however, he weighs more than a billion asses, he could collapse completely and tear the fabric of space-time, possibly disappearing up his own singularity.

    Professor Eithink Darthsakunt told us;
    “We can’t really imagine what happens under these conditions. We need new mathematics to describe the physics of how matter and gravity interact at these enormous densities. If he does indeed turn himself inside out, he could even become a second Big Bang which kick-starts another parallel universe, containing nothing but shit.”

    By STOP PRESS on Sep 4, 2013

  114. just catching up here . . . . wow (first time poster)

    lost in ALL of this back and forth is darth’s quote “they did over 60 shows on this tour. filmed several of them. the first 3 i saw were the garden ones in early sept”

    now, I’m not sure if darth is claiming that the band and management “filmed several of them” or that HE “filmed several of them” but it would be a huge development in the YES community to find ANY Yes Drama live footage as none as ever been presented or released official or not

    darth: if you read this please do clarify

    thank you much!!

    By helix on Oct 25, 2013

  115. They charged admission for this?

    By Bob on Dec 16, 2013

  116. i dont use other peoples handles. hardly ever.
    By darth on Aug 29, 2013

    By teeny bopper on Dec 16, 2013

  117. i didnt say hardly ever. i said ever. i just dont do it. i only post using my own id. u inserted the word hardly. i didnt say that.

    By darth on Dec 17, 2013

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