October 11, 2013 – 8:58 am

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Record Plant 1974 [no label, 1CD]

Live at the Record Plant, Sausalito, CA; Broadcast May 12, 1974 (some give the date as May 27, 1974). Very good FM (?) broadcast.

Though many may tend to forget, Journey was formed by former members of Santana and Frumious Bandersnatch. As mpigg commented at guitars101, “Steve Perry made them the money but before Steve…”

Thanks to jerry70 for sharing this show at Dime.

Original notes:

This sounds so good it could be a soundboard, except that between songs you hear a handful of people clapping close by. This copy is different [from] the “Original Cut” copy. The intro is missing the first few seconds. However, this copy has the complete Morning Day and an outro.

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Track 01. Intro/Mystery Mountain/Tuning 4:41 (7.9MB)
Track 02. Topaz 6:36 (11.1MB)
Track 03. All Too Much/In My Lonely Feeling/Conversation 9:00 (15.1MB)
Track 04. Kohoutek 6:30 (10.9MB)
Track 05. To Play Some Music/Drum Solo/To Play Some Music 5:58 (10.0MB)
Track 06. Of A Lifetime 6:19 (10.6MB)
Track 07. In the Morning Day/Outro 5:36 (9.4MB)

Gregg Rolie - keyboards/lead vocals
Neal Schon - guitar
Ross Valory - bass
George Tickner - rhythm guitar
Ansley Dunbar - drums

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  1. 23 Responses to “JOURNEY - RECORD PLANT 1974”

  2. Thanks, bigO! Was lucky enough to see Journey before Steve Perry.

    By NAMoosedog on Oct 11, 2013

  3. Journey opened for Emerson Lake and Palmer at the Santa Monica Civic in the mid to late 70’s. Wish I could remember the date. Both bands were very good that night. This recording is a little hot, but still very good and rockin! Glad to have a Gregg Rolie finally! Saw them again just about 5 years ago in Lancaster, CA.

    By 5yrsnojob on Oct 11, 2013

  4. “All Too Much”, is a greatly revised version of the Beatles song, “It’s All Too Much,” written and sung by George Harrison and accompanied by John Lennon, with backup vocals by Paul (drums by Ringo). It was used in the movie soundtrack for “Yellow Submarine”, after being passed over for Magical Mystery Tour, according to Wikipedia. A number of bands have covered the Beatles version.

    By 5yrsnojob on Oct 11, 2013

  5. I have this one,it is labelled 1975-05-27 on
    KSAN FM and the speaker is Thom O’Hare and the
    last track is incomplete in my version.

    By easy on Oct 11, 2013

  6. journey played santa monica civic on 6-2-76 but im sure if elp played with them then it wouldnt have been that show since they didnt tour in 76. elp is easier to track since their fans are more anal than journey fans. they didnt play santa monica in 77 or 78. i looked back to 74 and they didnt play santa monica in 74 either. they didnt even play calif in 73 so thats out. now they did play santa monica civic on one of the last 3 days or perhaps 2 or all 3 of the last 3 days of july 72. but i dont know if journey was there or not. but u did say mid to late 70s. after their last concert in feb 78.. their next show wasnt til aug 86. no shows in santa monica that year. but that was with powell. perhaps it was a show that isnt confirmed on any concert listing that i have. ive been a huge elp fan for over 40 years. perhaps it was that 72 show i mentioned above. i tend to think it was since journey opening for elp seems likely 41 yrs ago. journey was too big by 78 to open for anyone. elp didnt tour in 76 but journey did. i would think it could have been 74 but the elp 74 tour is extremely well documented. even better than the 88 tour which is crazy.

    By darth on Oct 12, 2013

  7. the brdcst date on the cue sheet that came with the single lp when this was sent to radio stations around the country had 5-27-74 on it. it was rebroadcast again a year later and the cue sheet was altered to say 5-27-75. there are copies with both dates out there. the actual date of the performance was 2 weeks earlier. the actual date of the original brdcst was 5-27-74. it was rebrdcst in some markets (mostly in calif) on the anniversary of the original brdcst. i had to wait til 83 i believe to get my first copy of this. u can find copies of this on vinyl for $25-40. there were counterfeits produced but u can tell by the blurriness of the printing on the label and the matrix #s on the groove roll out. also the cue sheets shouldnt be a xerox. but even the counterfeits are worth $20.

    By darth on Oct 12, 2013

  8. thanks darth for information

    By easy on Oct 12, 2013

  9. Never knew about their early days.

    For what they’re doing now, PBS’s “POV” has been showing “Don’t Stop Believin’”, about their first tour with their new singer. Really worth checking out.

    By Steve MC on Oct 12, 2013

  10. journey had 3 albums before perry joined. they were a sort of jazzy thing. perry brought them into the mainstream and made them a household name and got them rich and famous. other than the 3 lps there is also a demo tape floating around. personally i was never a fan of journey once perry joined. im not a jazz fan per se. im more into blues and jazz fusion and prog rock and several other styles of music. just not jazz. while early journey is certainly not along the lines of jazz that i hate most (it doesnt have ornette coleman in it for example - ha!) it is more accessable to me than many other recordings. i am a fan to a point. id say ive listened to those recordings maybe 8-10x each. the demos maybe 5x.

    there are 7 journey items on sugarmeg. 6 of em are live perfs and one is from 73. 2 from 74 one from 75. of course all of these performances 73-75 are without perry.

    By darth on Oct 12, 2013

  11. btw.. the 6th song on this performance here is stupendous. followed by the 7th song altho this entire show is fabulous. i dont know if there are ppl who havent bothered with this but u should check it out. its a killer set.

    incidentally. tonites austin city limits is a band called phoenix. theyre a french band. its a new show. after that in some markets is a show called live from the artists den. tonites show is imagine dragons. they played at the wilshire ebell theatre in la ca. this is from early august. its a one hour show also.

    By darth on Oct 13, 2013

  12. Early Journey was a really great band. They had that same sort of fire and jamming ability that Santana did, which is no coincidence, since Neal Schon & Gregg Rolie were fresh out of Santana. BTW, Prairie Prince was the original drummer. He left to go with the Tubes. Ansley Dunbar then joined after playing in Frank Zappa’s Mothers.

    By ictus75 on Oct 13, 2013

  13. “the 6th song on this performance here is stupendous. followed by the 7th song”

    Seven follows six! Check out the big brain on Darth!

    By Jules Winnfield on Oct 13, 2013

  14. no my point isnt that 7 follows 6. its that i felt that the most stupendous songs in order of how great they were were 6 then 7. that they happened to fall that way chronologically in order of performance at this concert is a coincidence. the 4th song would come next. did u really misunderstand what i said? seriously?

    By darth on Oct 13, 2013


    By Jules Winnfield on Oct 14, 2013

  16. Thanks for uploading this BigO! Like many I tolerated Journey on the radio enjoying mostly Neal’s contributions.. He is an amazing guitarist.

    By Tom on Oct 14, 2013

  17. 5 Yrs: ELP tours. 1977 was the year Journey opened for ELP on some of their shows. I saw the Northern California Oakland Stadium with them both. Sadly they were already trying out a new vocalist, but not Steve Perry…yet.

    By DanC on Oct 14, 2013

  18. Just got around to giving this a listen…W-O-W!!!!! Thanks BigO!

    By popac on Oct 15, 2013

  19. yeah and a civic auditorium is just like a stadium. same thing.

    By darth on Oct 15, 2013

  20. darth, for your own sake, shut the fuck up.

    By Constructive Criticism and Friendly Advice on Oct 15, 2013

  21. A civic auditorium is not like Yankee Stadium, Dodger Stadium, Rose Bowl Stadium, etc.

    By Frank Lloyd Black on Oct 15, 2013

  22. frank.. i know.. thats my point. elp didnt play santa monica civic auditorium in 77. if they did its not listed anywhere. journey may have played there. i dont know. all i did was look up the info trying to find the date for someone on here who was trying to get that info.

    By darth on Oct 15, 2013

  23. Exhiition Stadium, Toronto.. August 1977… Southside Johnny & The Asbury Jukes opened for Journey (with their new singer Steve Perry) who opened for ELP, wihout the orchestra and without the Moog because of humidity. Emerson had to play everything on the Yamaha GX-1.

    By Tarrkus7 on Oct 15, 2013

  24. I was at that Santa Monica Civic show to see Journey. On the same bill was Dr. John (the Medicine Man) and Redbone. Journey just killed it!

    Also caught them (around the same time) at the Starwood, a club in Hollywood.

    By Ruskinite on Mar 4, 2014

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