March 26, 2014 – 2:53 pm

Click on the panels for a better view or to download artwork.

Living On The Edge [Primal Jammin’ Grateful Dead!, 3CD]

Live at The Matrix, San Francisco, CA; October 8/30, 1968. Very good soundboard. Restored LP. A DoinkerTape.

Thanks to Doinker for sharing the tracks at Dime.

Doinker’s notes:

It has been said that fan-base hater and all-around loser Todd Rundgren (getting used to oblivion over there, Toddy boy?) went to the Guinness Book Of Records in order to secure the spot for the longest-playing vinyl album. Well, I’m happy to say he’s been surpassed… by a bootleg. Sweet justice, it’s DA DEAD! Three of the four sides here top 41 minutes. Each that is, giving new meaning to the words “Long Playing Record”. You will need to make extra space for this one. In fact, you might want to use a separate CD for each side. More on that in a moment.

First of all I want to thank Lossless Legs member Andy1099 for shipping me these LPs all the way across the pond. I’ve been wanting to hear them for the longest time; you will also really like this music even if you don’t normally care for the Dead.

This album is labeled “Mickey Hart And The Heart Beats (Grateful Dead) Living On The Edge 1968 California”. It consists of two different sets from when the Dead were very young. The sound quality is amazingly good considering the length of the record sides. Lots and lots of jamming here, so much in fact that this two-record set is mostly instrumental. Many thanks to LL member fangedesire for the following information, as well as the sources and correct track information: There are no commercial releases at all from these sets of music. The October 8 portion appears to be an upgrade from the commonly-available source material.

Original cover art for the LPs courtesy of LL member marcap.

LPs > Sound Forge > Click and crackle removal tool > FLAC via TLH level 6, sectors aligned and verified, FLAC integrity checked

Click on the highlighted tracks to download the MP3s (224 kbps). As far as we can ascertain, these tracks have never been officially released on CD.

Please Do Not Hammer The Links. Due to the size of some of the files, please be very patient when downloading the tracks. It could be that the server was very busy. The tracks should still be around. Please try again later. Kindly email us at [email protected] if you encounter persistent problems downloading the files.

Disc 1
Side A - October 8, 1968 (35 mins)
Track 101. Dark Star 12:03 (20.2MB)
Track 102. Cosmic Charlie 4:25 (7.4MB)
Track 103. Next Time You See Me Jam 17:44 (29.8MB)

Side B - October 8, 1968 (42 mins)
Track 104. Clementine Jam/Eleven Jam 19:52 (33.4MB)
Track 105. Death Don’t Have No Mercy 7:07 (12.0MB)
Track 106. Seven Jam 14:31 (24.4MB)

Disc 2
Side C - October 30, 1968 (43 mins)
Track 201. Dark Star 17:30 (29.4MB)
Track 202. Death Letter Blues 9:29 (15.9MB)
Track 203. Other One Jam 15:55 (26.7MB)

Disc 3
Side D - October 30, 1968 (45 mins)
Track 301. St Stephen Jam 3:04 (5.2MB)
Track 302. Turn On Your Lovelight Jam 9:34 (16.1MB)
Track 303. Clementine Jam pt 1 3:02 (5.1MB)
Track 304. Clementine Jam pt 2 8:59 (15.1MB)
Track 305. Clementine Jam pt 3/Eleven Jam 11:45 (19.8MB)
Track 306. Death Don’t Have No Mercy 5:13 (8.8MB)

October 8, 1968
Track 307. Clementine Jam (false start, amp dies) 2:31 (4.2MB)

Click here to order Grateful Dead releases.

+ + + + +
+ + + + +

Click here for more shows that are still open for sharing.

Click here for closed shows.
(Readers can email us a request to reopen closed shows.)


  2. Thanks, bigO!

    By NAMoosedog on Mar 26, 2014

  3. beautiful.

    By Timmy on Mar 26, 2014

  4. groovalicious. thanks big-O…

    By billy jack on Mar 27, 2014

  5. this is what i was talking about last year. theres a few more of these. 2 from the house on ashbury that i know of. thats off the top of my head. i know theres definitely another one or two from the matrix as well. i remember one from nov something. if this is the 30th of oct then im thinking very likely the one i had was the 13th.
    some of the other musicians at these jam sessions include members of tuna and harvey mandel and elvin bishop.

    i went to sf a few times for several reasons in sept of 88 thru 95. one reason was for the blues festival and another was to visit the landmarks that mattered to me that i could shoot pics of even if they werent there anymore. i went into the bar that was at the location where the matrix was once and tried to feel the vibe. everything was wooden and probably very different but the place was essentially empty. there was a couple of ppl and i said a few words to the bar tender there and someone overheard me who was a tad older and filled me in on things he remembered from the late 60s early 70s since he had been around then.
    i havent had my library of books and such at my disposal since 02 but i have an enormous amount of stuff that i have collected in so far as posters and art and playbills and books and magazines and on and on and the majority of it is about the 60s and sf and the blues and older music and stuff i am into in general. the stuff i have would fill an average size living room enough to make it nearly uninhabitable. i have read a lot and been collecting literature etc for many years. this isnt even including my actual music collection itself.
    so hearing what ppl actually who were there while i was standing in the place talking to them about it was something special to me. i experienced as much as i could in the nyc scene for my age but i was 9 at woodstock. if only i was 10 yrs older than i was id have appreciated things more i think and id have seen more.
    if u like crazy jams with ridiculously talented musicians who who feed off one another for hours and just go on and on.. then this set of recordings is for u. it is one of the hilites in my collection. this was so much easier on 90min audio tapes. haha.
    thanks for bringing it back into my collection.

    By darth on Mar 27, 2014

  6. btw.. if u put 307 after 103.. those 7 tracks will fit onto one cd in the correct order as intended.
    and its only a suggestion but if u wanted to take up as little room as possible in your collection u could leave off 306 and make a 2nd cd of all of the rest of the tracks. take that last track 306.. and put it on the end of of another mickey cd or dead cd etc. it is only 5mins.
    this way u will have 2 completely full 80min cds of these performances and one 5min song left over. hold onto it and use it as filler on something else later.

    By darth on Mar 27, 2014

  7. darth- did you find the info on Kent State yet? I didn’t think so. When you feel the vibe of manning up, you can admit your mistake right here: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1762

    By Dingus on Mar 27, 2014

  8. i experienced as much as i could in the nyc scene for my age but i was 9 at woodstock.

    apart from the newborn ,youngest there ?

    By dropkick sarge on Mar 27, 2014

  9. no there were many kids there. if u look at the cover of the album ull see kids that were younger than me. i saw dozens of kids there when i was there. lots of em around my age too. but many babies. u cant call someone a liar just like that. i have pics of me from the event. even one of me with jimi in the background.

    as for kent state… i have no reason to look it up. if u need to u can. i wasnt planning on looking up this info. i already have it correct. i didnt make any mistake. i gave u the facts. if u didnt understand something i said thats fine. but the facts are as i stated them. i cant make u accept them. yes most people concentrate mainly on the 4 that were killed of course. but 27 others were hurt in lesser ways. these include paralized blinded maimed in terrible ways. yes only 4 were killed where of course they shouldnt have been but there were 31 total shot. u should be able to find this information online. do some research. its not like i just pulled the number out of my ass.

    By darth on Mar 27, 2014

  10. “its not like i just pulled the number out of my ass.”
    Wrong again darth, that’s exactly where you get all of your information, and where your head is most of the time.

    “do some research.”
    I did. So did several others. No one agrees with you. Asshole.

    By Dingus on Mar 28, 2014

  11. they dont have to agree with me. its the facts they should agree with. all i did was repeat them. it has nothing to do with me. i just brought them to an uninformed audience.
    and as for where your head is.. as opposed to mine.. its up my ass. if u didnt spend all your time obsessing about me and over everything i say on this site u would have more time to look up things like this particular bit of info.
    clearly u didnt look this up. if u had u would have found that the information is as i stated it. keep digging. u will find it im sure. im not going to do your homework for u. good luck in your search.

    By darth on Mar 28, 2014

  12. On a different subject, hey Doinker, what’s this about Todd Rundgren being a “fan-base hater and all-around loser”? Just curious. Has Todd been going off on his fans? Over many years, Todd has put out a lot of music I would never bother to listen to a second time, but once in awhile he’ll still come up with something that’ll remind you of why for awhile there he was considered one of the greats. I think his (very long) story is just indicative of the struggle an artist faces in the music industry when they’ve got more creativity than business sense. But I can also see why some current or former fans might get personally annoyed with Todd. I saw a tv show of him playing with Ringo, and Todd seemed disengaged and bored almost to a level of contempt for the gig. Watching that, I was wishing someone would yank him off the stage and let someone who wanted to kick out the jams play instead.

    By Jim K. on Mar 28, 2014

  13. Looks like a great post-thanks for sharing. As a long time fan of Todd’s music, I could have done without the silly rant by Doinker.

    By DanC on Mar 28, 2014

  14. i have pics of me from the event. even one of me with jimi in the background.

    you have not.

    By the liar on Mar 28, 2014

  15. Nice try darth, you idiot. I gave a link right at the start; if you want something to back up your mistake you’ll need do your own dirty work. No one obsesses over you, you attacked me and I defended myself. You’ve never proven me wrong, and you certainly won’t with this one.

    By Dingus on Mar 28, 2014

  16. 4 killed 9 wounded.

    from the dept of kent state u.

    Four Kent State students died as a result of the firing by the Guard. The closest student was Jeffrey Miller, who was shot in the mouth while standing in an access road leading into the Prentice Hall parking lot, a distance of approximately 270 feet from the Guard. Allison Krause was in the Prentice Hall parking lot; she was 330 feet from the Guardsmen and was shot in the left side of her body. William Schroeder was 390 feet from the Guard in the Prentice Hall parking lot when he was shot in the left side of his back. Sandra Scheuer was also about 390 feet from the Guard in the Prentice Hall parking lot when a bullet pierced the left front side of her neck.

    Nine Kent State students were wounded in the 13 second fusillade. Most of the students were in the Prentice Hall parking lot, but a few were on the Blanket Hill area. Joseph Lewis was the student closest to the Guard at a distance of about sixty feet; he was standing still with his middle finger extended when bullets struck him in the right abdomen and left lower leg. Thomas Grace was also approximately 60 feet from the Guardsmen and was wounded in the left ankle. John Cleary was over 100 feet from the Guardsmen when he was hit in the upper left chest. Alan Canfora was 225 feet from the Guard and was struck in the right wrist. Dean Kahler was the most seriously wounded of the nine students. He was struck in the small of his back from approximately 300 feet and was permanently paralyzed from the waist down. Douglas Wrentmore was wounded in the right knee from a distance of 330 feet. James Russell was struck in the right thigh and right forehead at a distance of 375 feet. Robert Stamps was almost 500 feet from the line of fire when he was wounded in the right buttock. Donald Mackenzie was the student the farthest from the Guardsmen at a distance of almost 750 feet when he was hit in the neck.

    By the liar on Mar 28, 2014

  17. A total of 67 shots were fired in 13 seconds. Four students: Allison Krause, Jeffrey Miller, Sandra Scheuer and William Schroeder were killed. Nine students were wounded: Joseph Lewis, John Cleary, Thomas Grace, Robbie Stamps, Donald Scott MacKenzie, Alan Canfora, Douglas Wrentmore, James Russell and Dean Kahler. Of the wounded, 1 was permanently paralyzed, and several were seriously maimed. All were full time students.

    By pants on fire on Mar 28, 2014

  18. darth kent state story is different than everyone elses here.
    imagine having to live in his parallel universe.

    By dropkick sarge on Mar 28, 2014

  19. Jim - as a recording artist, Todd’s problem is that he’s a sucker for his own ideas, to the point where everything sounds like a “project” rather than a real attempt to communicate anything to the listener. He has done some brilliant work but you have to plow through an awful lot to get there.

    By thor on Mar 30, 2014

  20. rundgren got lucky with something /anything back in 1972 and hasn`t done anything since worth listening to twice.

    By pismo t clam on Mar 31, 2014

  21. grabbin’ it, big oh, before it goes away.


    By I-) on Apr 8, 2014

  22. as long time todd fan I am not surprised at the Todd vitriol. many fans of something/anything would love for him to make son of s/a, s/a live, the return of s/a and just keep making the same album again and again (see ac/dc or the ramones) what i hate about the internet is the mealy mouth sniping that exists in the anonymity of the web. would love to punch some of you haters right in the mouth!

    By rodd tundgren on Dec 24, 2018

Post a Comment