THE PHILIP COHEN COLLECTION: FISH & CHIPS

March 10, 2010 – 3:59 am

For a short while Manfred Mann considered the bread and butter issues.

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MANFRED MANN’S CHAPTER THREE
Volume Three: The Lost Album [no label, 1CD]

Unreleased album circa 1970. Ex SBD stereo.

This third album by Manfred’s progressive jazz-rock group Chapter Three was thought not to exist due to a fire at Manfred’s London recording studio in the mid-1980s. However, a copy was found in the 1990s at a record company vault in the U.S.A. This was digitally copied from that best existing master, however, it should be noted that there was a static build-up on the leader tape used to create the silent gaps between the songs, so there are some crackles in the between-song blank spaces. But this has no effect on the music itself. “Messing Up The Land”, “Fish” and “Turn You Away From My Door” were later released on Manfred’s four-CD box set “Odds & Sods: Mis-Takes & Out-Takes”. - Philip Cohen

Manfred Mann’s Chapter Three lasted all of two years from late 1969 when they made their debut album to 1970 when Volume Two was released and became their final album. But before Manfred formed the Earthband in 1971, he made one more Chapter Three album.

Volume Three is an odd mix of old-style British invasion era pop songs [It’s So Easy, Turn You Away From My Door], ballads, proto-ambient tracks [So Sorry, Please] and a cover of James Taylor’s Something (In The Way She Moves). At first listen, I thought Manfred was experimenting to see in which direction they should take. But upon reading Phil’s notes, it appears this was submitted for release(?) as a copy of the master was found in the US.

In any case, we should be thankful Manfred Mann did not succumb to pressure to conform or make formula music but reinvented themselves as the Earthband. Volume Three, which has more ballads than necessary including an even slower, more intimate version of Sometimes [first appeared on Chapter Three’s debut album] would have made it harder for Mann to retain credibility.

It would take seven more years before Manfred Mann saw chart action again. In 1977, the Manfred Mann Earthband scored their first hit with a progressive cover of Bruce Springsteen’s Blinded By The Light. By then, Volume Three had languished in record company vaults. This one’s for collectors and fans of British Invasion music. Excellent quality.
- The Little Chicken

Thanks to Phil Cohen for sharing the tracks.

Note: A longtime music fan, Philip Cohen was a contributor to the now-defunct ICE Magazine and compiled the boxsets for The Yardbirds, The Small Faces, Humble Pie and Nice.

Click on the highlighted tracks to download the MP3s (these are high quality MP3s - sample rate of 192 kbps). As far as we can ascertain, these tracks have never been officially released on CD.

Due to the size of some of the files, please be very patient when downloading the tracks. It could be that the server was very busy. Please try again later. Kindly email us at [email protected] if you encounter persistent problems downloading the files.

Track 01. Forgot To Remember (5.9MB)
02. Messing Up The Land*
Track 03. Train Crash (3.3MB)
Track 04. It’s So Easy (3.7MB)
05. Fish*
Track 06. Something (In The Way She Moves) [James Taylor] (5.0MB)
Track 07. So Sorry, Please (11.3MB)
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08. Turn You Away From My Door*
Track 09. Sometimes [version 2] (6.0MB)
Track 10. Chips (2.9MB)

*Omitted. Officially released tracks.

Lineup:
Manfred Mann
Mike Hugg
others, possibly same lineup as the earlier two albums.

To get the omitted tracks, click on the link to buy the 2005-released Manfred Mann’s Odds & Sods boxset.

Compare how adventurous Chapter Three really were. Click on the link to buy their 1969 debut album.

  1. 17 Responses to “THE PHILIP COHEN COLLECTION: FISH & CHIPS”

  2. Phil,

    Thanks for sharing this, unheard by most, Manfred Mann. Much appreciated.

    By Dennis on Mar 10, 2010

  3. Thank you for another heapin’, helpin’ hap’nin’.

    By Timmy on Mar 10, 2010

  4. Sometimes there’s a reason an album gets lost, and why its better to forget to remember. So sorry, please, if I turn this away from my door. Its so easy to chip away at the fishy stuff on this train crash of an album to find the only something worth keeping.

    By 2yrsnojob on Mar 10, 2010

  5. Oh so sorry, I forgot to remember to say that it is good that this wasnt released. It would have really messed up the band.

    By 2yrsnojob on Mar 10, 2010

  6. Thanks for sharing. I always wanted to hear this one

    By Matt on Mar 13, 2010

  7. thanks, I’m GLAD that this was found. I had only read about the three “jazz” albums they had recorded during this period. Thanks to this sight I’ve heard the MOno mixes of the first and now this the forgotten/lost third LP….

    Anything about the second LP cooking up?

    And YES, I’ve been inspired to purchase the two commercial releases as well (can only find the first so far)

    Not EVERY thing posted is for EVERY one, that’s okay, right?

    I am so glad that this sight is here! And yay Manfred Mann!!!!!

    By FrankD on Mar 13, 2010

  8. WOW! Many thanks.
    It is Absolutely Wonderful to get the chance to listen to the complete ‘lost’ album.
    I think ‘Messing up the land’ is one of Chapter Three’s finest songs.
    Different versions of the tracks ‘Forgot to remember’ and ‘So sorry please’ appear on Mike Hugg’s 2nd solo album ‘Stress and Strain’.

    By Martin Farley on May 26, 2011

  9. This is great. To think they thought the tape was lost in a fire.

    One request. Track 9 (Sometimes vsn 2) has something wrong with the link.
    http://www.bigozine1a.com/MPX5/MNNlost/MNNlost09.mp3

    The song is not coming up.

    Thanks again.

    By Charles Fellner on Sep 12, 2015

  10. Track 9 is fixed now. Thanks!

    By Charles Fellner on Sep 26, 2015

  11. somehow I missed this when it was originally posted . Thanks big o. I must check this out.

    By dropkick sarge on Sep 26, 2015

  12. The link for Track 07 is dead.Can you please reuppload.Many Thanks.

    By E.Roos on Aug 22, 2017

  13. Several of the links no longer work. I have managed to source all of the tracks from elsewhere with the exception of ‘Something (In The Way She Moves)’ (track 6).
    I wonder, would it please be possible to fix the broken links, especially track 6?
    TIA

    By Malcolm Short on Mar 12, 2018

  14. hi all it was back in 74 when manfred got signed to warners i was in the industry so i got the chance to go to the warner bros signing party. i asked him could i ask a few questions and he said yes. i had only one, why wasnt the third chapter 3 lp released. his repsonce was the the tape master went missing.thats why it was found at the polygram tape libery in new jersey many years later. it seems it was submitted here for release before the u.k.

    By bruce kelso on Feb 18, 2019

  15. hi, can any one help me. I had this on a cassette and when when I played it yesterday my tape machine ate it up. it was my mistake by rewinding and checking where it was at song wise. this was my only copy. can any one get a nother to me on cd. would really appericate it.

    By bruce kelso on Mar 11, 2019

  16. Three more tracks are now officially available: “Train Crash”, “So Sorry Please” and “Chips” on Radio Days Vol 3.

    By 6 times 9 on Jul 14, 2019

  17. 6 X 9 + get this entire album here
    https://albumsiwishexisted.blogspot.com/2019/07/manfred-mann-chapter-iii-fish-chips.html

    By sking on Jul 15, 2019

  18. Hi there, I’m looking for some info concerning the origin of the track Forgot to Remember, as I’d love to have this track in lossless. Cheers!

    By slugbucket on Apr 1, 2020

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