December 2, 2010 – 11:07 am

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Too Late For Mind Expanding [HRV CDR 036, 2CD]
The Montreux 40th Anniversary Series

Live at the Montreux Casino, Switzerland; November 21, 1970. Very good audience recording.

These are the notes provided by MOB, who shared the tracks on the net. MOB also remastered the disc. Thanks to Victor (who provided the master tape); MOB; EdP (quality control); RonToon (artwork) and Harvested Records.

It was 40 years ago today!

This new Harvested release provides the first of the two Montreux 1970 concerts in the most complete form and with the best possible quality. The main source was Victor’s raw master transfer already shared last year. The ending part of Green Is The Colour and the following track Careful With That Axe Eugene, not present on Victor’s master, were taken from “The Good” recorder that surfaced some years ago on “The Good… The Bad” RoIO ref. FA033.

Victor’s raw transfer shared in November 2009 was first thought to be from the second concert, mainly because it matched “The Good… The Bad” ROIO that was labelled from November 22, 1970. However, based on Victor’s recollections of the two shows and some pictures from his reels, it now appears that the present show with the two “blues” encores is actually from November 21, 1970 (this show ended late, forcing the band to finish with a quiet blues). The second concert was added at the last minute for the next afternoon at 2.30 pm (Roger sarcastically said “good morning” to the audience) and, at this second show, the encore was Interstellar Overdrive…

Victor’s master is a superb audience recording and a compilation cassette he did in the past from both concerts was copied by someone and ended up on the 1995 “Smoking Blues” bootleg (”Smoking Blues” is therefore at least 1st or 2nd gen, and even with that lineage some people thought it was from soundboard or from some EMI acetates that are most probably pure legend). Embryo, Just Another Twelve Bar and More Blues from “Smoking Blues” are from November 21, 1970, but the versions presented here are upgrades, coming directly from the master and with an uncut More Blues (fading out on “Smoking Blues”).

Despite its fantastic quality, Victor’s master had some flaws that needed to be corrected. The speed was not consistent throughout the show: for some tracks, speed was absolutely perfect, while for others speed gradually slowed down (probably an “end of reel” effect during the play-back). Fat Old Sun, Atom Heart Mother and A Saucerful Of Secrets suffered from that slowing-down phenomenon and speed was corrected for these three songs.

There were some channel loss and levels fluctuations, the most obvious being during the first verse of Fat Old Sun. These were repaired. There were also drop-outs here and there, especially during the first two minutes of Cymbaline (one drop-out every 862ms, thus 140 drop-outs were manually corrected one by one in order to fully restore these first minutes of Cymbaline).

The right channel became slightly weaker during Set The Controls and A Saucerful Of Secrets, where more drop-outs were present on that channel. These flaws were attenuated as much as possible. Last but not least, there were several cuts on the master: the very first chord of Fat old Sun was missing and has been restored, a short cut during Mother Fore (AHM) was carefully patched, and the central part of Celestial Voices (ASOS) that was missing due to a tape flip, was restored from another show in order to save the continuity and progression to the climax of the song.

The end of Green Is The Colour, Careful With That Axe Eugene and the first 30 seconds of Set The Controls were taken from “The Good” source. A lot of work was needed in order to restore that part, because of abrupt speed fluctuations during Careful, and also because “The Good… The Bad” ROIO comes from a “tweaked” tape: the original audio capture is pure mono (there is absolutely no stereo separation between the instruments), but someone found funny to play with the faders during the analog transfer, introducing artificial panning in order to fake stereo effects (these tricks were clearly done during an analog mixing of the recording, not in the digital world).

Speed was corrected segment by segment, and levels were carefully adjusted in order to restore the original music as it was on the master, i.e. in the centre of the stereo image, before the artificial panning ruining most parts of “The Good… The Bad”.

So there you are. The November 21, 1970 Montreux concert in all its glory!

Victor’s 2009 transfer: 2 x Sennheiser MD-421 > Uher 4200 reel recorded at 19 ips > Audio CD > EAC > FLAC
“The Good” recorder: unknown gen > Scotch Reel > DAT(0) > [email protected] > Speed & Pitch Correction > [email protected]

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UPDATED: October 9, 2015

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  1. 13 Responses to “PINK FLOYD - MONTREUX 1970”

  2. hey bigo, thanks!!! this looks like a good one. one more pink floyd show for the collection. i don’t think i have one with astronomy domine on it. the hamburg show you offered in april 08 has atom heart mother, though. that’s a good one! i remember when i get all these shows and i keep them all. i spend way too much time on them to get rid of them. they’re backed up too.

    will see 13th assembly in tuscaloosa tonight!

    i saw the sword sunday night, and i got a copy of the show. the tracks aren’t split. it’s one big 76+ min track on a cd-r, but, for an iphone recording, it sounds pretty good. if anybody see better quality split tracks, i want it! the sword are a metal band from austin, tx. they’re good.


    By Ed Saad on Dec 2, 2010

  3. Great sound quality!!! Thanks for posting this.

    By man22 on Dec 2, 2010

  4. Thanks for this. Going to see RW The Wall in 2 Days. This might get me in the mood. Thanks for all the great music that would just disappear if you weren’t here!

    By Chesters Dad on Dec 2, 2010

  5. GREAT SCORE on this one, bigo! I remember buying the SMOKING BLUES bootleg in 1995 and being blown away by the quality of the recording. And this is my favorite Floyd period with the long expansive finding-our-way pieces they were doing live in particular - the stuff DAVID GILMOUR called PSYCHEDELIC NOODLING. Also kudos to the HARVESTED group, and you guys for helping keep this great music alive! AND I HAVEN’T EVEN DOWNLOADED THE 2ND DISC YET!

    By Daniel Kershner on Dec 3, 2010

  6. hey bigo, thanks! the megaupload alternative was helpful.

    i had a great time last night at 13th assembly. get on facebook, and you can see some great pictures of me and mary, me and jessica, me and taylor ho bynum and me and tomas fujiwara. fun time indeed. i got 3 cd’s i didn’t already have. now i have 14 cd’s of mary!!!

    check for the remaining 13th assembly tour dates. if you see her at one of the flordia shows, ask her about me!!! while you’re there, pick up her new quintet disc called saturn sings and her trio disc called dragon’s head!!! both are awesome!!! if you’d like to hear songs from both, do a search on bigo for mary halvorson willisau and the vortex which was offered in june.


    By Ed Saad on Dec 3, 2010

  7. Hey there -
    What an amazing sound quality - great !!
    Forty years on, and still able to thrill.
    What can I say…
    - but thank you very much.

    By Divine Light Control on Dec 3, 2010

  8. Pink Floyd and Blues– awesome…. Thanks bigO!

    By Namoosedog on Dec 4, 2010

  9. Thanks for the link fix

    By Kilgore Trout on Dec 7, 2010

  10. Wow! I’ve got several shows from this “era” and very similar set list….however this one is amazing. Very good sound, thanks for posting (and for helping with link issue!)

    By Tom on Dec 7, 2010

  11. Thank you very kindly for this Floyd treat!

    By UrKenny on Dec 17, 2010

  12. This one is awesome! I just saw Roger Waters on the Wall Tour, great! Nice to hear some of this again after a long absence

    By Chesters Dad on Dec 19, 2010

  13. I never heard this one. Thanks for another gem from the BigO archives.

    By Matt on Dec 23, 2010

  14. Oooohhh yesssss, definitely fall Thomspon sunset and blond ale material. Thank you and be well amigos. Now if I could just find some help with those bales of hay….

    By James on Oct 22, 2011

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