January 26, 2011 – 3:45 am

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Together With Woody Herman And The 3rd Herd
Bird With The Herd 1951 [Alamac, 1CD]

Live at the Municipal Arena, Kansas City, Missouri; July 22, 1951. Ripped from vinyl. Soundboard? Speed corrected and rejoined.

Thanks to Doinker for sharing the tracks at Dime. This is what Doinker noted:

During the very early 1970s, the record chain Sam Goody distributed many jazz bootleg releases under their own Alamac label. For this, and for getting someone at a printing plant to make unlicensed extra copies of commercial releases (Steely Dan among them), Sam Goody was busted and nearly closed. The bust didn’t help much as they went out of business a couple of years later. (A footnote: someone bought the rights to the name, and did reopen the chain sometime later, but that was a different operation).

Alamac Records product was a plain-white record label with bad printing, with no company name or address on it. The record jackets were plain text on the back, with a single-color front cover (green, brown, etc). The cover could just be text also, or it might have a photo of the artist. The material consisted mostly of privately-made air checks and of radio transcriptions. It’s believed the material in this torrent is an air check.

According the the great jazz-research site, this is the only release of this material and no known commercial labels have reissued this show. According to, the record label Alamac is counted as a bootleg.

Additional comments by kjroberts at Dime:

Alamac was a two-bit label which simply copied many of the Boris Rose bootleg LPs. The Boris Rose originals were very common in NYC record stores in the early 1970s, and could still be found new as late as 1990 from jazz dealers.

“Bird Flies With The Herd” was first issued on Boris Rose’s LP on the Main-Man Label (No. 617). Rose made up a new label name almost every week. You could pick this up in almost every serious store in the Village when it came out (circa 1973). Most jazz collectors avoided the Alamac rip-offs as they were second generation copies of Boris Rose’s LPs (that he used his own master tapes).

I have the Rose LP in front of me. I know this is right, because I bought it from Boris at his apartment in NYC. Rose manufactured hundreds of LP titles from the recording collection he made himself off of the radio.

Alamac records were very common all over the northeast USA in the mid-1970s. Most places sold them for $2.99, and many sold them for $1.99 each. They are all second gen copies of Rose’s first pressings.

Also, the Rose LPs were true mono, and some (many?) Alamacs were reprocessed phony stereo.

Notes from the record back cover:

A historic summit meeting of jazz took place on a scorching summer afternoon in Kansas City when Charlie Parker joined Woody Herman’s Third Herd in a series of blazing solos against the background of some of the best Herman repertoire of that period.

Herman’s great band serves really as a backdrop for the unique Parker talent and only brief spots by the leader on clarinet, and by Urbie Green on Laura, and Bill Perkins and Dick Hafer on Leo The Lion indicate the many fine talented musicians Herman had in this particular edition of the many Herds he fronted over the years.

Lineage: LP QSR 2442 ->Sound Forge ->Click and crackle removal, stereo to true mono to two channel mono-> Flac via TLH, level 6, sectors aligned and verified, FLAC integrity checked.

Click on the highlighted tracks to download the MP3s (these are high quality MP3s - sample rate of 224 kbps). As far as we can ascertain, these tracks have never been officially released on CD.

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Track 01. You Go To My Head (5.2MB)
Track 02. Leo The Lion I (4.9MB)
Track 03. Cuban Holiday (4.9MB)
Track 04. The Nearness Of You (5.7MB)
Track 05. Lemon Drop (5.9MB)
Track 06. The Goof And I (5.6MB)
Track 07. Laura (4.7MB)
Track 08. Four Brothers (6.1MB)
Track 09. Leo The Lion II (5.1MB)

Charlie Parker (as)
Woody Herman (as, cl, cond)
Roy Caton, Don Fagerquist, Johnny Macombe, Doug Mettome (tp)
Jerry Dorn, Urbie Green, Fred Lewis (tb)
Dick Hafer, Bill Perkins, Kenny Pinson (ts)
Sam Staff (bars)
Dave McKenna (p)
Lawrence “Red” Wooten (b)
Sonny Igoe (d)

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  1. 12 Responses to “CHARLIE PARKER WITH WOODY HERMAN 1951”

  2. hey bigo, will get. thanks!!! i have this charlie parker in my garage.


    By Ed Saad on Jan 26, 2011

  3. Thanks bigO!

    By Namoosedog on Jan 26, 2011

  4. very cool..thanks guys…

    By sluggo on Jan 26, 2011

  5. I read this:

    “Alamac Records product was a plain-white record label with bad printing, with no company name or address on it. The record jackets were plain text on the back, with a single-color front cover (green, brown, etc). The cover could just be text also, or it might have a photo of the artist.”

    and wonder: Any chance we could get the original (Almanac) artwork?

    Thanks - fantastic stuff!


    By rick on Jan 26, 2011

  6. nice!!!


    By I-) on Jan 27, 2011

  7. Mister Charlie PARKER ! the highest bird !

    come fly with him

    thanks for letting his memory shine !

    By JUJU on Feb 1, 2011

  8. Thanks for putting me a little closer to having EVERY CHARLIE PARKER RECORDING!!!

    By John on Feb 8, 2011

  9. Wow! That’s my dad, Dave McKenna, on piano. I didn’t know until today that this recording existed. Far out!

    By Doug McKenna on Jan 14, 2013

  10. To read Doug McKenna’s comment makes this a really special post. Thanks BigO!

    By Joe B on Jun 2, 2014

  11. correct venue is called municipal auditorium not “arena.”

    this is a very nice recording that i pulled from dime when doinker offered it there…

    thanks to all…

    By Jerry's Finger on Jun 3, 2014

  12. Looks as though the front cover of the Alamac release can be downloaded from here:

    By Chris W on Dec 28, 2014

  13. hello! I just discovered this website by searching for some info about a certain Woody Herman record I bought a few days ago… I know it is kinda late to ask six years after this was posted, but is it possible to restore all the tracks for download? I only managed to download the tracks 1, 2, 4 and 7. the rest failed and number 3 brought me to some site full of Chinese characters… I would really love to hear this in entirety! thanks!

    By Roman on Aug 4, 2017

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