January 28, 2012 – 4:33 am

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Solana Beach 1988 [Countdown Factory, 2CD]

Live at the Belly Up Club, Solana Beach, CA; December 1, 1988. Very good to excellent soundboard.

Drummer Ginger Baker may be best known for his work with Cream and Blind Faith but he has never stayed within the rock orbit. He was played with avant artistes such as Bill Laswell, and jazz stalwarts such as Art Blakey, Charlie Haden and Fela Kuti.

Music writer George Varga remembers this Solana Beach gig:

In 1988, former Cream drummer Ginger Baker gave his first San Diego area performance in 20 years at the Belly Up. It was a clumsy, bumbling “classic-rock” set better suited for the soundtrack to a bad acid trip. “We’ve got some problems up here,” bassist Tim Bogert said, after Baker nearly took out an audience member’s eye by smashing off the wing nut from one of his cymbal stands with a drum stick.

The set may be loose but it’s far from being the ramshackle show it has been made out to be. For instance, ignore the first 3:21 mins (”teething” problems?) of Aiko Biaye and the track ends up being a scorching display. And especially for Cream and Blind Faith fans, this is a slice of rock history.

Thanks to the person who shared the tracks on the net in 2005.

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Disc 1
Track 101. White Room - false start (2.4MB)
Track 102. White Room (8.0MB)
Track 103. Born Under A Bad Sign (11.3MB)
Track 104. Drum Solo (10.9MB)
Track 105. Aiko Biaye (17.9MB)
Track 106. Outside Woman Blues (8.5MB)
Track 107. Gates Of The City (10.3MB)

Disc 2
Track 201. Do What You Like (10.9MB)
Track 202. Sitting On Top Of The World (8.5MB)
Track 203. Spoonful (16.0MB)
Track 204. Toad (26.0MB)

Ginger Baker - drums
Tim Bogart - bass, vocals
Alan White - drums
Walter Trout - guitar
Michael Monarch - guitar

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  1. 27 Responses to “GINGER BAKER AND FRIENDS - SOLANA BEACH 1988”

  2. Walter Trout without Canned Heat.
    Alan White without Yes.
    Tim Bogart without Carmine Appice.
    And Ginger Baker without Hawkwind.

    I’ll have to try this one out.

    By sking on Jan 28, 2012

  3. Hey, this looks fun!

    By Just Bill on Jan 28, 2012

  4. hey bigo, i am always interested in different stuff so i will check this out. ginger baker played on a public image limited album too with steve vai. i’ve not heard it, but i believe it’s called compact disc. i think, bill laswell is on it too.

    here’s a great album that my friend, hinds, put out almost two years ago that is a free download, if anybody wants to get it. the song titles are great, and it’s more in the free jazz/improv spirit so perhaps not for everybody, but i like it.


    By Ed Saad on Jan 28, 2012

  5. Hmm. There are more people on this than listed. There is a female vocalist and a 2nd guitar. I think maybe Alan White is a guitarist, not the Yes drummer.

    By Just Bill on Jan 28, 2012

  6. ginger is simply an enigma wrapped in a cocoon of mystery..gotta love this his bio..his love hate thing with jack bruce is almost cartoonish..ginger is awesome..long live ginger baker.

    By sluggo on Jan 28, 2012

  7. I wondered about that Alan White listing as well. Doesn’t seem likely that Ginger would “share” much of anything! much less the spotlight!

    By Tom on Jan 28, 2012

  8. Hey Ed…thanks for posting the link to that album. The title is hilarious.

    By Walter on Jan 28, 2012

  9. There are 2 guitar players on here. Of course there is only one drummer….Ginger Baker. I wonder who the players actually are.

    By JBB on Jan 28, 2012

  10. Walter Trout was with some version of Canned Heat? Didn’t know that. But I do know one thing that links this band with a piece of rock and roll history that goes way beyond Vanilla Fudge, Beck, Bogert and Appice, Cream, Yes, and Trout’s solo or band work - Alan White was the drummer on the Beatles first hit in England, “P.S. I Love You (b/w “Love Me Do).

    Rock and roll will never die!

    By O.B. Dan on Jan 29, 2012

  11. Excellent site. Congratulations

    By Eduardo Castro on Jan 29, 2012

  12. O B Dan- I did not know of the Beatles connection. I looked up Alan White at AMG and Wiki. He was a early member of Ginger Bakers Airforce (also playing some keyboards). And should be listed on the first album.He was also in The Plastic Ono band and played on All Things Must Pass. More Beatle connecions.
    Walter Trout joined Canned Heat in ‘81 to replace The Bear and remained throughout the mid 80’s. I know he plays on the Live In OZ (Australia)album.There are 3 different titles to this same album. He also played with John Mayall.

    By Sking on Jan 29, 2012

  13. Trout`s out there on his own now..saw him last ear`s are still ringing.
    I think he starts at 11 and just gets louder , it was brutal really couldn`t hear another instrument in the band.

    By sluggo on Jan 29, 2012

  14. Yeah, I know he’s been solo for a few years now. That’s really the only way I know him at all. He plays a blues festival in Connecticut from time to time and always knocks’em dead.

    By O.B. Dan on Jan 29, 2012

  15. Again,It never ceases to amaze me what pops up here on the Big O.This is a nice,varied set of some great music. Thx for sharing…..

    By couz on Jan 30, 2012

  16. For what its worth etc. Found a reference to this show which claims Tim Bogert played bass and sang, Alan White & Ginger Baker drummed, and Walter Trout & ex Steppenwolf guitarist Michael Monarch played guitars.

    By Mike Cummings on Jan 30, 2012

  17. Thanks Mike Cummings (& Just Bill). Now we know who the guitar on my other speaker is. Good separation there. I’ll have to listen closer to see if they divided the drums. Anyway…To add to my first post-

    And Michael Monarch without Detective.

    By Sking on Jan 31, 2012

  18. Hello Mike

    Thanks for confirming the lineup.

    By bigozine2 on Jan 31, 2012

  19. Some good sounds. Liked how everyone contributed to the history.

    It has not escaped my notice that a number of these recent legendary postings show higher kbps: 224 and even a 256! Thanks very much, Big O. I appreciate that this is also while you’re keeping d/l’s “in house” so to speak. In a world-wide “firefight”, it’s always good to keep your head low, even if you’re not the target due to your good ethical practices. It’s incredible to me how this is so boldly a “Corporate War” being waged on other countries soil to serve a supposed unproved business interest. It is an expansion of business desires over the diminishing rights of U.S., and even world, citizens. I first noticed when the Supreme Court allowed the expansion of eminent domain law to allow the taking of private property, someone’s home, because a business simply said they wanted the land, and not because a city required the land for a public interest.

    By 3yrsnojob on Feb 6, 2012

  20. You said it well 3yrs.

    By Sking on Feb 6, 2012

  21. Speaking of Ginger Baker… I just saw the fabulous documentary “Beware of Mr. Baker”. Very engaging and a terrific history of the jazz-blues-rock-African musical evolution of his music. Not having been a big fan, it gave me a real appreciation I’d lacked and I’ll be looking to catch up with so much I’d missed.

    By lowendbill on Jul 29, 2014

  22. btw.. i mentioned it i think on the deep purple page maybe that that nites pbs listings would include a program called front and center with ginger bakers band playing a club in nyc recently. iridium is a very small club. and the reviews of those gigs were fabulous. i dont know if anyone caught the show on tv. perhaps the show was posted on youtube and therefore is easily dl’able into audio or video. he has played with some amazing musicians as well. if u get the chance.. check out alan holdsworth. he did some amazing stuff with him. but then the 70s thru 90s was a long time so he had a lot of years to work with a lot of people.

    By darth on Jul 30, 2014

  23. Darth - Holdsworth is a born and bred Yorkshire boy and an amazing instrumentalist who played in Soft Machine and replaced McLaughlin in Tony Williams Lifetime project. I have over the years supped a few ales with the man and a nicer chap you could not wish to meet. I am also privvy to information regarding a running vendetta over the years he had with another great British guitarist John Martyn - PM me Darth for further details

    By Stephen Hawkings Voiceover in Heinz Beans Commercial on Jul 30, 2014

  24. i have no idea who u are and am unable to pm u. i dont pm people. i dont use any other services that would allow me to pm people. u dont seem like someone i would want to pm with. i have met and talked to holdsworth a couple of times. i havent met martyn sadly but i loved his music immensely. pity more of it isnt offered here. but i was on another site or two where they had a lot of his stuff so i think i have probably enough for now.
    im pretty familiar with holdworth tho and most of the people he played with. that fusion and progressive style was of huge interest to me from 72 to at least 95. i put a lot of energy into seeing as much of those musicians as i could live when i was able to.
    i actually waited 35 yrs!!! to see one band and when they showed up here i was unable to go to the 2 shows that were very close to me. not bands he was involved with mind u but just to give u an idea they were of that ilk.

    By darth on Jul 30, 2014

  25. Darth, re: Baker; thanx for the iridium video tip. Will check it out. The supermegs site has a very decent selection of recordings from the 70s all the way to 2014 - and many are terrific quality. Nothing like that great feeling of “discovering” something that’s been there all the time.

    By lowendbill on Jul 30, 2014

  26. someone note on my YT channel: “WALTER TROUT was the opening act and did not play with ginger. SCOTT RATH & KEITH WYATT PLAYED ELECTRIC GUITARS. TIM BOGERT on BASS GUITAR. DEBRA PARKS BACKING VOCALS. As GINGER had no work visa at this time, we threw together some brave souls to try and play a few little shows to raise some cash for Mr. BAKER as he blew his savings moving himself and horses and dogs from Italy to L.A. All but Mr. Wyatt had played at the country club a couple of months earlier on an GB GIG to play for his airfare and expenses while checking out LA. GB was an olive farmer who gave lessons and did the occasional gig too. GB and these guys did a few shows with some/little rehearsal but it was mostly done with touch and good will with ginger being pretty funny for the most part. Hey he was only 49 and on the good side of 2 wives and 3 moves. alan white and mike monarch played at the COUNTRY CLUB and were great, not here though.”

    By Eddie_1412 on Aug 25, 2015

  27. can’t wait to listen to this one!

    …and thanks for all the relevant posts, fellas!!!

    By metaljohn333 on Nov 4, 2016

  28. Notice that most of the tracks are Cream songs. Just more acknowledgment by the 3 band members that Cream will always be their peak, and I think it was the biggest mistake in classic rock for them to break up, they should have just gone off and done their other projects and then gotten back together after a year or two. The nonstop touring raised the tensions between Bruce and Baker and killed Cream. Bruce put out a great solo album and more great album tracks after Cream, Ginger less so, and Clapton kept playing Cream tracks too. Sad they never made another studio album after 1968.
    As far as this recording, can anyone say one way or the other if Walter Trout is on this recording? I never knew Bogert played bass and sang with Baker, it must have been a thrill to work with the greatest (jazz) drummer ever to play in a rock band. Walter Trout has always been a mystery too. He has loads of talent, but nobody’s ever heard of him.

    By bernard on Nov 5, 2016

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